IT'S A MIRACLE! Kids on school lunch programs come back from the summer well-fed!

How did this miracle happen?

  • It's a good point, obviously they can get by without school lunches

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • Why do you not want to help starving kids?

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • I am only too happy to have my taxes feed hungry kids.

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Oh yes Dano, make the Republican party run that as their national platform

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • WHY DO YOU NOT WANT TO HELP STARVING KIDS!?!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I can think of other things we should cut, so that makes this program ok

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    6
"If you want to be honest, how many kids did you know that just skipped breakfast because they'd rather sleep in or threw away the healthy or gross food their parents put in their lunch or refused to eat their supper because they didn't like it?
I knew plenty who did some of that including myself."

When are you going to stop with this "style" of Danecdotal debate, and try arguing facts & statistics?
 
Onceler said:
I would wager that has more to do with awareness, but it's still a fair #.

No one is dying of starvation out there, but there is povery & hunger, and I have no doubt that many households often make the choice between a utility bill & a meal.

Way to cherrypick, though...
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it has nothign to do with that b/c they get their money from welfare lorax, not to mention food shelves etc... its not like they have to choose one or the other, they get WIC and they get food stamps all paid for by me, so why do i need to buy their kid lunch??

if you are able to make a kid shouldn't you pay for it?
 
Oh, and conditions in many parts of America prior to the 1930's were terrible; there was severe poverty & starvation....
 
Onceler said:
"If you want to be honest, how many kids did you know that just skipped breakfast because they'd rather sleep in or threw away the healthy or gross food their parents put in their lunch or refused to eat their supper because they didn't like it?
I knew plenty who did some of that including myself."

When are you going to stop with this "style" of Danecdotal debate, and try arguing facts & statistics?
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I already did, it was the part you glossed over with my reference to obesity rates higher than ever and MORE among poorer income levels.
 
TheDanold said:
If you want to be honest, how many kids did you know that just skipped breakfast because they'd rather sleep in or threw away the healthy or gross food their parents put in their lunch or refused to eat their supper because they didn't like it?
I knew plenty who did some of that including myself.
The hunger issue is exxagerated, if you want blunt honesty we have a terrible obesity problem, and it's MORE concentrated at the poorer income levels.

Time to ditch the 19th century Hugoesque vision of the poor starving bread stealing child, live in this age instead.
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Dumbass, you have an impossible time differentiating between choosing a course of action because you want to (I don't like what Mommy made me for breakfast so I'm not going to eat) and not having an option at all (there's nothing to eat so I'll go hungry).

The hunger issue is hardly exaggerated. If anything your denial that there is any hunger problem at all is a gross distortion and denial of reality. You do it to rationalize your position, but don't expect others to buy into you Danecdotal tripe about kids at parks, kids "looking well-fed" and not liking the sandwiches your mommy made you.

I'm not being Hugoesque. In fact, you're the only knucklehead talking about starvation. I'm just talking about giving hungry kids some food security and proper nourishment. Which leads to another point, poor children are obese largely because the cheaply available processed foods lack proper nutrition. Getting these kids a decently nutritious meal is beneficial.
 
Robdawg said:
it has nothign to do with that b/c they get their money from welfare lorax, not to mention food shelves etc... its not like they have to choose one or the other, they get WIC and they get food stamps all paid for by me, so why do i need to buy their kid lunch??

if you are able to make a kid shouldn't you pay for it?
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And if you can't pay for the kid, the kid should pay the price? Sorry, I'm not buying it.
 
Onceler said:
Good article for Dano on obesity & the poor:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitness/03/04/obesity.paradox.ap/index.html

You're such an f'in moron...
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Thank you Lorax, you have proven that the problem is not that they cannot afford food, but that they can afford cheaper food. They are not hungry as your article states (so much for Dungheap's BS that they are and you help disprove), they are just not eating nutritiously because the produce they prefer is more expensive (ie: some fruits).
They could buy CHEAP and very healthy produce like potatos and onions as that is what far poorer people eat in poor countries. Also rice and noodles are WAY cheaper/healthier than processed foods but they are not buying that because they can't be bothered to take the time to prepare it.
 
TheDanold said:
Thank you Lorax, you have proven that the problem is not that they cannot afford food, but that they can afford cheaper food. They are not hungry as your article states (so much for Dungheap's BS that they are and you help disprove), they are just not eating nutritiously because the produce they prefer is more expensive (ie: some fruits).
They could buy CHEAP and very healthy produce like potatos and onions as that is what far poorer people eat in poor countries. Also rice and noodles are WAY cheaper/healthier than processed foods but they are not buying that because they can't be bothered to take the time to prepare it.
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And thank YOU, DeMano, for so clearly not reading the article...
 
TheDanold said:
Thank you Lorax, you have proven that the problem is not that they cannot afford food, but that they can afford cheaper food. They are not hungry as your article states (so much for Dungheap's BS that they are and you help disprove), they are just not eating nutritiously because the produce they prefer is more expensive (ie: some fruits).
They could buy CHEAP and very healthy produce like potatos and onions as that is what far poorer people eat in poor countries. Also rice and noodles are WAY cheaper/healthier than processed foods but they are not buying that because they can't be bothered to take the time to prepare it.
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Tue on the uporocessed food. businesses lobbied hard to get rid of the commodities program and goto the food stamp approach to fill their pockets with more tax money.
 
Onceler said:
And thank YOU, DeMano, for so clearly not reading the article...
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did you read the article?? thats basically what it says...t hey are fat, but you can get good food on sale at the grocery by looking at the circular, not to mention they already get FOOD STAMPS.... so they can buy healthy food.
 
This kind of knucklehead thought from Dano and RobDawg reminds me of when Reagan wanted to classify ketchup as a vegetable because school luch program guidelines required that children be fed two vegetables.

Neither one of the knuckleheads are raging about the trillion dollars thrown away in Iraq or the 9 billion dollars that was lost/stolen in Iraq which would have fed every child in the country.

But they're worried about taxes.

Wow
 
blackascoal said:
This kind of knucklehead thought from Dano and RobDawg reminds me of when Reagan wanted to classify ketchup as a vegetable because school luch program guidelines required that children be fed two vegetables.

Neither one of the knuckleheads are raging about the trillion dollars thrown away in Iraq or the 9 billion dollars that was lost/stolen in Iraq which would have fed every child in the country.

But they're worried about taxes.

Wow
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It's stunning.

I don't know how anyone can look at the information & evidence that is available on this topic and not conclude that the paltry amount we spend on school lunch programs is a worthwhile investment.

Willful, stubborn ignorance...
 
blackascoal said:
This kind of knucklehead thought from Dano and RobDawg reminds me of when Reagan wanted to classify ketchup as a vegetable because school luch program guidelines required that children be fed two vegetables.

Neither one of the knuckleheads are raging about the trillion dollars thrown away in Iraq or the 9 billion dollars that was lost/stolen in Iraq which would have fed every child in the country.

But they're worried about taxes.

Wow
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False dilemna, we do not have to choose between either and Rob and I both oppose the Iraq war too.
 
TheDanold said:
False dilemna, we do not have to choose between either and Rob and I both oppose the Iraq war too.
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You only "sort of, kind of" oppose the war, but anyway, I'll bet at least a quarter of the kids getting free lunches are fat.
 
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