Ivermectin APPEARS TO BE WORKING WONDERS

[Poor Richard Saunders]

What evidence? Void argument fallacy. Paradox M.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

Denial of the N95 specification. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). Paradox M.

The N95 specification and testing shows it stops 95% of .3 micron but stops more than 95% of larger and smaller particles. So an N95 mask would stop 95% of airborne viruses if worn properly. For you to accuse me of denying the N95 specification shows you do not know what you are talking about.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

False equivalence fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

Inversion fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Yup. It's fake advertising. These are also not masks.

You deny science. You deny engineering too.

Nah. You've already got your head up your ass.

HEPA filters use the same technology and science that masks use. Interception, diffusion and impaction don't stop working because the filter is on your face. It is you denying science and engineering. Care to explain how Brownian motion no longer happens when you wear a mask?

 

[Into the Night]

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The N95 specification and testing shows it stops 95% of .3 micron but stops more than 95% of larger and smaller particles. So an N95 mask would stop 95% of airborne viruses if worn properly. For you to accuse me of denying the N95 specification shows you do not know what you are talking about.
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You are denying the N95 specification. The N95 spec does not discuss viruses at all.
You are trying to stop flies with a barbed wire fence.

A mask will not protect you from any virus.

Paradox M.

 

[Into the Night]

HEPA filters use the same technology and science that masks use.

No, it doesn't.

Interception, diffusion and impaction don't stop working because the filter is on your face.

A mask is not a HEPA filter.

It is you denying science and engineering.

Inversion fallacy.

Care to explain how Brownian motion no longer happens when you wear a mask?

Irrelevance fallacy. Paradox M.

If you think this magick talisman will protect you, wear your mask. Demanding that others wear a mask is only admitting that your own doesn't work.

 

[Jarod]

It might work, but Ill wait for a scientific study, not Trumppers screaming about it.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You are denying the N95 specification. The N95 spec does not discuss viruses at all.
You are trying to stop flies with a barbed wire fence.

A mask will not protect you from any virus.

Paradox M.

ROFLMAO.
You have decided to continue with your idiocy.

https://www.honeywell.com/us/en/news/2020/03/n95-masks-explained
Masks can have HEPA quality filtration.

N95 regulations discuss microorganisms which include viruses.
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/resources/pressrel/letters/conformitymanuf/pdfs/CA-2018-1010-P.pdf

This MOU applies to N95s used in healthcare settings, which protect both the patient and HCP from
the transfer of microorganisms, body fluids, and particulate material.11

In order to be classified as a medical N95 it has to meet the standard that requires protection from viruses and bacteria. That means it has to filter 95%.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

No, it doesn't.

Filtration science is the same for all filtration. It doesn't stop being filtration because the filter is being worn on one's face.

A mask is not a HEPA filter.

A mask can be a HEPA filter. https://www.achooallergy.com/3m-6291-hepa-masks.html

Inversion fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone like Into the Night trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy. In this case Into the Night was unable to provide any evidence that filtration works differently for a mask vs a furnace filter so he simply avoids his lack of evidence by using the fallacy fallacy.

Irrelevance fallacy. Paradox M.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy. Brownian motion is hardly irrelevant in a discussion of how filtration works for the smallest particles. In this case Into the Night has shown he is avoiding the discussion of how filtration works by claiming the process by which filtration works is irrelevant. Clearly an attempt to avoid a topic he is unfamiliar with and can't discuss.

If you think this magick talisman will protect you, wear your mask. Demanding that others wear a mask is only admitting that your own doesn't work.

What a lovely fallacy you have presented us with. In this case you have used the false dilemma fallacy. There are many reasons for wanting others to wear a mask other than admitting one's own mask doesn't work. Wanting to protect others from themselves is one other possible reason. See how that works. I pointed out your fallacy and then took the time to explain why your fallacy was a fallacy. Something Into the Night seems incapable of doing because he is in general an idiot.

 

[Into the Night]

ROFLMAO.
You have decided to continue with your idiocy.

https://www.honeywell.com/us/en/news/2020/03/n95-masks-explained
Masks can have HEPA quality filtration.

N95 regulations discuss microorganisms which include viruses.
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/resources/pressrel/letters/conformitymanuf/pdfs/CA-2018-1010-P.pdf

In order to be classified as a medical N95 it has to meet the standard that requires protection from viruses and bacteria. That means it has to filter 95%.

Denial of the N95 specification. False authority fallacy. That silly paper mask or cloth you stick on your face isn't even N95. It will not protect you from any virus. Paradox M.

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

Denial of the N95 specification. False authority fallacy. That silly paper mask or cloth you stick on your face isn't even N95. It will not protect you from any virus. Paradox M.

False Somebody Thinks He Has a Clue Fallacy. constantly used by dildo poster Into the Night.

 

[Into the Night]

Filtration science is the same for all filtration.

There is no such thing as 'filtration science'. Buzzword fallacy.

It doesn't stop being filtration because the filter is being worn on one's face.

Never said it did. Contextomy fallacy.

A mask can be a HEPA filter. https://www.achooallergy.com/3m-6291-hepa-masks.html
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Buzzword fallacy. You are ignoring HEPA and N95 now. NONE of the paper masks or cloth masks people are wearing meet either N95 nor HEPA. Neither N95 nor HEPA filters can stop a virus. You are trying to stop a fly with a barbed wire fence.

If you want to wear your magick talisman, go ahead. Demanding that others wear a mask is only admitting that your own doesn't work. Paradox M.

 

[gfm7175]

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

Not what a Fallacy fallacy is.

The N95 specification and testing shows it stops 95% of .3 micron but stops more than 95% of larger and smaller particles. So an N95 mask would stop 95% of airborne viruses if worn properly.

There's nothing in the N95 specification and testing regarding stopping more than 95% of larger and smaller than 0.3 micron particles.

For you to accuse me of denying the N95 specification shows you do not know what you are talking about.

You are denying the N95 specification and don't know what you are talking about.

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Chanting is not intelligent discourse.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Denial of the N95 specification.

The legal requirement to be called an N95-F mask isn't a specification? Wow. You do like to make shit up.

False authority fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy. The agency that specifies what is required to be classified an N-95 is a false authority? Talk about idiotic nonsense from you as you avoid talking about the actual specifications of an N95 mask.

That silly paper mask or cloth you stick on your face isn't even N95. It will not protect you from any virus. Paradox M.

Actually, I do wear an N95 mask whenever possible. The specifications say it will protect me from breathing in some viruses if they are airborne.

 

[Into the Night]

Not what a Fallacy fallacy is.

I've already told him this.

There's nothing in the N95 specification and testing regarding stopping more than 95% of larger and smaller than 0.3 micron particles.

The same is true of the HEPA specification. He apparently believes the marketing hype on these filters. HEPA also uses 0.3u particles in that standard. Since that standard, the name HEPA is now commercialized. It's the name of a filter company.

He thinks wearing a mask on his face is equivalent to a unit the size of your average industrial air conditioner.

Of course the crappy paper masks and cloth masks everyone wears do not meet either standard by a long shot.

You are denying the N95 specification and don't know what you are talking about.

He actually denies both specifications. He also doesn't understand just how tiny a virus is.

Chanting is not intelligent discourse.

It's all he's got. It's his form of mockery. He keeps making one fallacy after another, and gets angry when I call him on it. He is completely illiterate on logic. He doesn't even know what a fallacy is. You might say it's his way of inverting the argument.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

There is no such thing as 'filtration science'. Buzzword fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

Never said it did. Contextomy fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

Buzzword fallacy. You are ignoring HEPA and N95 now. NONE of the paper masks or cloth masks people are wearing meet either N95 nor HEPA. Neither N95 nor HEPA filters can stop a virus. You are trying to stop a fly with a barbed wire fence.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy. Surgical masks end up being rated about 80%. While not stopping everything, a reduction in viral load is helpful in preventing illness.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

There is no such thing as 'filtration science'. Buzzword fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

Never said it did. Contextomy fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

Buzzword fallacy. You are ignoring HEPA and N95 now. NONE of the paper masks or cloth masks people are wearing meet either N95 nor HEPA. Neither N95 nor HEPA filters can stop a virus. You are trying to stop a fly with a barbed wire fence.

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy. Surgical masks end up being rated about 80%. While not stopping everything, a reduction in viral load is helpful in preventing illness.

 

[Into the Night]

The legal requirement to be called an N95-F mask isn't a specification? Wow. You do like to make shit up.
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Contextomy fallacy. He never mentioned any legal requirement of anything. You are making shit up. Inversion fallacy.

Actually, I do wear an N95 mask whenever possible.

Ask me how I already knew this. Enjoy your magick talisman. BTW, it does place you at greater risk of bacteriological and fungal infections. Why do you want me or anyone else to wear a mask? Doesn't your own work? Paradox M.

The specifications say it will protect me from breathing in some viruses if they are airborne.

No, they don't. Denial of the N95 and HEPA specifications.

 

[Into the Night]

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There is no such thing as 'filtration science'. Buzzword fallacy.

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Surgical masks end up being rated about 80%. While not stopping everything, a reduction in viral load is helpful in preventing illness.

Unit error. Denial of the N95 specification. Buzzword fallacy (viral load). There is nothing special about a surgical mask other than a treatment with a biocide. Such masks effectively revert to N95 masks after a couple of hours. They also do not stop a virus. You are also not wearing a surgical mask. Did you know you can be infected by a SINGLE VIRUS?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Not what a Fallacy fallacy is.


There's nothing in the N95 specification and testing regarding stopping more than 95% of larger and smaller than 0.3 micron particles.


You are denying the N95 specification and don't know what you are talking about.


Chanting is not intelligent discourse.

Did you forget to change your socks?

A fallacy fallacy is a form of a red herring fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

The N95 specification is that it must block 95% of the particle size that is hardest to block. That is why it must block 95% of .3 micron particles. It then blocks approximately 99% of larger and smaller particles. This is science. Something you and your socks know nothing about.

Here is an explanation. If you would care to discuss its contents and how impaction, diffusion and interception work in an N95 mask and prove you aren't ignorant, let me know.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7498895/

Denying the science of how filtration works is not intelligent discourse. But then you don't seem to know what intelligent discourse is in general.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I've already told him this.
The same is true of the HEPA specification. He apparently believes the marketing hype on these filters. HEPA also uses 0.3u particles in that standard. Since that standard, the name HEPA is now commercialized. It's the name of a filter company.

HEPA stands for "High Efficiency Particulate Air." I guess if you ignore all the science you could just call it hype. Where is this supposed company named "Hepa" located at?

He thinks wearing a mask on his face is equivalent to a unit the size of your average industrial air conditioner.

Filters only need to match the air flow. Unless you are breathing at the rate of a thousand cubic feet of air per minute, a filter the size of your industrial air conditioner isn't required. HEPA only requires that it filter 99% of particles in the air flow to meet the standard. Air flow can be as little as 1 cubic foot per minute or as high as 10,000 cubic feet per minute. The standard says nothing about the size of the filter or the air flow.

Of course the crappy paper masks and cloth masks everyone wears do not meet either standard by a long shot.

The filtering principles don't change. Just the efficiency of the filter does. Surgical masks have been shown to have an efficiency of about 80%. Three layers are required to meet that standard for what you claim are crappy paper masks.

He actually denies both specifications. He also doesn't understand just how tiny a virus is.

Viruses vary in sizes. They can vary from .002 micron up to .5 micron depending on the virus. Most viruses actually aren't airborne as a single virus. They are usually contained in a droplet. But all that doesn't change how filtration works.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7498895/

Let me know when you have educated yourself enough to have an intelligent conversation on filtration. As of now, you are just proving you are ignorant in that you think that filters only work like a sieve and let anything through that is smaller than the pores. You are ignoring 2 of the 3 ways that filters work.

It's all he's got. It's his form of mockery. He keeps making one fallacy after another, and gets angry when I call him on it. He is completely illiterate on logic. He doesn't even know what a fallacy is. You might say it's his way of inverting the argument.

LOL. I don't get angry at your continued use of the fallacy fallacy. I find it funny that you think your continued use of the fallacy fallacy would make others think you are intelligent.


But just to keep others informed about your tactics let me remind them.
The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

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Unit error.

Claim of an error but failure to provide evidence in support of your claim.

Denial of the N95 specification.

Which specification am I denying? You have provided no evidence of any specification that would contradict what I have said.

Buzzword fallacy (viral load).

Fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy occurs when a poster, usually Into the Night as evidenced by his repeated use, simply declares another poster is using fallacies and fails to point out how the supposed fallacies are actually fallacies. The fallacy fallacy is usually used by someone trying to avoid discussing the topic because they are unable to so they try to appear more intelligent than they are by simply claiming a fallacy.

There is nothing special about a surgical mask other than a treatment with a biocide. Such masks effectively revert to N95 masks after a couple of hours.

No, they don't since a surgical mask is not rated as N95. This is a surgical mask

The fact that you don't know the difference between a surgical mask and an N95 speaks volumes as to your knowledge on this subject.