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He makes up random lies about everyone. Just a troll. Starve it.

I agree...and second that advice..

 

[Althea]

Attacking people with ad hominem attacks generally does nothing for a discussion, but is good fuel for flame wars, which is perhaps your aim.

And I would argue that your insistence upon linking to nutter sites is fuel for same.

 

[Concart]

This is the first time I've attempted in depth discussion with him.

It's probably going to be the last

It's a good learning experience, I guess. Gives you an understanding of how these peoples minds work. To this poster peer reviewed journals are 'establishment', and apparently, the establishment lies about everything. I haven't yet figured out what the purpose of the late 19th century medical community had in lying about the existence of viruses and the efficacy of smallpox vaccinations, but I'm sure he's got a theory. And I'm sure it's completely off the rails insane.

 

[Althea]

It's a good learning experience, I guess. Gives you an understanding of how these peoples minds work. To this poster peer reviewed journals are 'establishment', and apparently, the establishment lies about everything. I haven't yet figured out what the purpose of the late 19th century medical community had in lying about the existence of viruses and the efficacy of smallpox vaccinations, but I'm sure he's got a theory. And I'm sure it's completely off the rails insane.

I tried, but I'm done. The claims in his Russia thread were a bridge too far.

I'm blissfully blind to his posts as of 1 minute ago.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

This man makes a good point

Then explain why polio has been eradicated in the US since we started vaccinating our people but appears in nations that don't use the vaccine.

 

[Althea]

Then explain why polio has been eradicated in the US since we started vaccinating our people but appears in nations that don't use the vaccine.

I said you made a good point.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I'm not. I told Dutch Uncle this several times as well. His insistence in labelling me as such is one of the main reasons I thread ban him from all my threads. The other is his constant ad hominem attacks against those he disagrees with.

You lied about being American. Why wouldn't you lie about being a comradette, comrade Phoenyx?

As some here may know, I'm a pretty big fan of Canadian American journalist Eva K Bartlett. Recently, she joined RT in Donetsk to film a bit. In the following clip, she interviews Russia's Sparta Commander. She asks some questions, such as what they are fighting for. The Sparta Commander says the following:

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For the truth, we are fighting for the truth. I always rather answer the question, "what are we fighting against?" We are fighting against injustice, against genocide, against this Russophobica that has formed in the Western world.

The genocide of the Russian-speaking population, the dissident population, those who do not think like them, nationalists, Nazis. Against the genocide of the civilian population, because there is no other way to call the enemy's firing on institutions such as the Kalinin hospital, the children's department where children are, schools, the city center, and the market district.

There is no other way to call it, this is precisely the genocide of the civilian population which they consider to be their Ukrainian population. That's how they love them - they kill them.
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The full clip is here:
[video=youtube;NNZMjyfB3KE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNZMjyfB3KE[/vide]

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I didn't realize Phoenyx is a female?

She's posted nothing but links to nutter sites, and expects to be taken seriously.

I'm not. I told Dutch Uncle this several times as well. His insistence in labelling me as such is one of the main reasons I thread ban him from all my threads. The other is his constant ad hominem attacks against those he disagrees with.

He makes up random lies about everyone. Just a troll. Starve it.

Sooo....you're not a female either, Lig? Interesting. Do you believe Phoenyx is an American too?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I said you made a good point.

Sorry I misunderstood. Thank you.

 

[Scott]

Saw an interesting article published yesterday on Epoch Times. Unfortunately, it's a premium article, but I'll quote a bit of it...

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Elon Musk Reveals ‘Major Side Effects’ After 2nd COVID Booster

By Allen Zhong

January 21, 2023

Elon Musk said he felt like he “was dying” after his second COVID-19 booster shot.

“I had major side effects from my second booster shot,” the new Twitter boss wrote in a social media post. “Felt like I was dying for several days. Hopefully, no permanent damage, but I don’t know.”

Musk didn’t provide medical records to back his claim. Neither did he say which company’s COVID booster he took.

The Epoch Times can’t verify his claim independently.

Moderna and Pfizer didn’t respond to requests for comments at the time when the article was published.

He took Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine and the first mRNA booster without side effects, Musk said.

Musk posted a string of Twitter posts in response to a post by Rasmussen Reports which is criticizing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s narrative that major side effects after COVID vaccination are “rare.”

Americans Link COVID Vaccines to Mysterious Deaths

A new Rasmussen Reports poll, released on Jan. 2 and based on a representative sample of 1,000 American adults, shows that nearly half of Americans believe that the COVID-19 vaccines probably caused a “significant number of unexplained deaths,” while over a quarter said they personally know someone whose death may have been caused by vaccination side effects.
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Full article:
Elon Musk Reveals ‘Major Side Effects’ After 2nd COVID Booster | The Epoch Times

I would believe anything Jew-Ish Santos says before anything Musk says.

Do you have any actual information that would suggest that Musk's testimonial is false here?

Not necessarily false but utterly meaningless.

Do you have any information that would suggest that Musk's testimonial is "utterly meaningless"?

Yea. He is reporting common side effects that posed no danger to him.

First of all, where did you hear that feeling like you were dying for several days was a common side effect of getting one's second booster? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm certainly interested in getting documentation for this.

Second of all, what evidence do you have that this side effect posed no danger to him?

 

[Scott]

I'm not. I told Dutch Uncle this several times as well. His insistence in labelling me as such is one of the main reasons I thread ban him from all my threads. The other is his constant ad hominem attacks against those he disagrees with.

He makes up random lies about everyone. Just a troll. Starve it.

As I mentioned, I thread ban him from all my threads, but I do occassionally engage him in threads where he isn't thread banned. You ever consider thread banning him yourself?

 

[Scott]

I've never claimed to be a doctor, but Vaccine Mania, which I quoted extensively above, was written by 3 medical doctors.



There's actually a diagram in Virus Mania book that I didn't include that shows that Polio was declining long before Polio vaccines. Here it is:

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Diagram 2

Polio death rates began to decline long before major
inoculation campaigns were started

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From 1923 to 1953, long before large-scale polio vaccinations began to be carried out in the mid-1950s, mortalities attributed to polio had already decreased substantially: in the USA by 47 percent; in Great Britain by 55 percent; in other European countries, the statistics are comparable. This diagram was reproduced with permission from the following book: Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? © Neil Z. Miller. Alle Rechte vorbehalten.
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Source:
Engelbrecht, Torsten; Köhnlein, Claus; Bailey, Samantha; Scoglio, Stefano. Virus Mania (p. 73). Books on Demand. Kindle Edition.

So crippling symptoms aren't important?

I'm really not sure where that question is even coming from. The quote from Vaccine Mania that you're responding to shows evidence that polio was declining long before polio vaccines. This strongly suggests that polio vaccines had little if anything to do with the decline of poiio.

No it doesn't

Althea recently said that she's now put me on her ignore list, so I'll just ask this of anyone who's reading- what does the evidence above suggest to you?

 

[LurchAddams]

I'm fully vaxed and fully boosted. I don't even believe I can get Covid at this point. I live with a nurse who had it twice. I've yet to test positive

It's fucking free.

Just do it.

One of my prior sales jobs was during the pandemic a couple of years ago. I had to go into people's homes to sell them. I was required to wear a mask but very few of my customers did. And this was before the vaccine was available. I figured I must have had the asymptomatic kind. I've had the vax and 3 boosters. No ill effects except a sore shoulder for a day each time.

 

[LurchAddams]

Or because it violates the rights of unborn bread.

That's quite the joke you just "molded"

 

[Concart]

First of all, where did you hear that feeling like you were dying for several days was a common side effect of getting one's second booster? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm certainly interested in getting documentation for this.

Second of all, what evidence do you have that this side effect posed no danger to him?

'Feeling like you are dying' is subjective, and Musk is a pussy. I had friends who felt like crap for a day. It was VERY common. In fact, those side effects are a clear indication that your body is building immunity to the (not real) virus.

https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/s...e-side-effects-why-they-happen-how-treat-them

"The most common side effects include a sore arm, fatigue (feeling tired), headache, aches, and fever. Severe side effects are very rare and treatable."

I would appreciate if you would actually inform yourself before you come here and spout your bullshit.

 

[Concart]

Althea recently said that she's now put me on her ignore list, so I'll just ask this of anyone who's reading- what does the evidence above suggest to you?

Your sources are inaccurate, your conclusions completely lacking in logic.

 

[Scott]

I think you're ready for my ignore list. Some people end up there due to racism, misogyny, or just empty calories in every post.

Others end up there because their stupidity knows no bounds, and I can't litter up my pages with nonsense.

and you can't take the heat and are stupid.

I think it's best not to sink to this level of 'debate'. Althea has now said she'd put me on her ignore list. I think she's done us both a favour. She clearly doesn't think I'm worth her time and I have more than enough people sending me and my source material ad hominem attacks already.

 

[Scott]

Do you have any actual information that would suggest that Musk's testimonial is false here?

Yes.

He opened his mouth

It's comments like this that make me glad that Althea has put me on ignore, making it unlikely that she'll be responding with any more such inane posts.

 

[LV426]

LOL, bet this guy has a lot of regrets...

Oh wait...

Washington trooper who defied state vaccine mandate and told gov to ‘kiss my a–‘ dies from COVID-19
https://nypost.com/2022/01/29/washi...medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons

 

[Scott]

Yet another ad hominem attack. If you'd like to have an -actual- discussion here instead of just piling on fuel for a flame war, you might consider saying why you disagree with the articles linked to above instead of just attacking them. At this point, I'm not sure if you even clicked on the links.

This IS you attempting to have a discussion.

Indeed. Unfortunately, people like you make it virtually impossible. But let's continue with your scintillating post...

The issue is that you wallow in the sewer of conspiracy theories [snip]

I rest my case. Your post was little more than an attack on me, not on any of the evidence I've brought to the table. Much better that you keep me on ignore and spare me such posts.