Jab Regret Trend

AProudLefty said:
Phoenyx said:
Do you feel that the adverse events with covid vaccines are above the norm [of] the average for vaccines?
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No.
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In that case, I recommend you check out the following article:

How Covid Vaccines damage the body | brightworkresearch.com

A paper is mentioned in the article regarding the mRNA vaccines. The abstract of the paper can be seen here:
Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19 | International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice and Research
 
Saw an interesting article published yesterday on Epoch Times. Unfortunately, it's a premium article, but I'll quote a bit of it...

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Elon Musk Reveals ‘Major Side Effects’ After 2nd COVID Booster

By Allen Zhong

January 21, 2023

Elon Musk said he felt like he “was dying” after his second COVID-19 booster shot.

“I had major side effects from my second booster shot,” the new Twitter boss wrote in a social media post. “Felt like I was dying for several days. Hopefully, no permanent damage, but I don’t know.”

Musk didn’t provide medical records to back his claim. Neither did he say which company’s COVID booster he took.

The Epoch Times can’t verify his claim independently.

Moderna and Pfizer didn’t respond to requests for comments at the time when the article was published.

He took Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine and the first mRNA booster without side effects, Musk said.

Musk posted a string of Twitter posts in response to a post by Rasmussen Reports which is criticizing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s narrative that major side effects after COVID vaccination are “rare.”

Americans Link COVID Vaccines to Mysterious Deaths

A new Rasmussen Reports poll, released on Jan. 2 and based on a representative sample of 1,000 American adults, shows that nearly half of Americans believe that the COVID-19 vaccines probably caused a “significant number of unexplained deaths,” while over a quarter said they personally know someone whose death may have been caused by vaccination side effects.
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Full article:
Elon Musk Reveals ‘Major Side Effects’ After 2nd COVID Booster | The Epoch Times
 
Phoenyx said:
Any article that's open to the public can be reviewed by relevant experts if they so choose. The problem with peer reviewed journals is that viewpoints that they have inherent biases, both for supporting false results that support dominant narratives and quashing unpopular viewpoints. Some articles you might find interesting:

How Bias Is Ruining Scientific Research : If it bleeds (or has a miracle result), it leads | The American Spectator

Peer Review Bias: A Critical Review | sciencedirect.com



See above in regards to peer reviewed journals, but there are plenty of articles that can be reviewed by anyone that show evidence that the Covid vaccines have harmful effects. Here's 2 that were recently published over at Children's Health Defense:

‘Cause Unknown’: Ed Dowd’s Pioneering Exploration of Sudden Deaths After the Rollout of COVID Vaccines | Children's Health Defense

COVID Vaccines Linked to Shingles Reactivation | Children's Health Defense
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Lol so you have nothing. Because your position is utterly, totally, completely rejected by the medical community. No reputable doctor would waste their time debunking your total bullshit. Findings are published in peer reviewed journals not on quack websites. You can’t find ONE article that supports a single position you have taken. NOT ONE. Consider yourself utterly defenstated m.
 
Phoenyx said:
Saw an interesting article published yesterday on Epoch Times. Unfortunately, it's a premium article, but I'll quote a bit of it...

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Elon Musk Reveals ‘Major Side Effects’ After 2nd COVID Booster

By Allen Zhong

January 21, 2023

Elon Musk said he felt like he “was dying” after his second COVID-19 booster shot.

“I had major side effects from my second booster shot,” the new Twitter boss wrote in a social media post. “Felt like I was dying for several days. Hopefully, no permanent damage, but I don’t know.”

Musk didn’t provide medical records to back his claim. Neither did he say which company’s COVID booster he took.

The Epoch Times can’t verify his claim independently.

Moderna and Pfizer didn’t respond to requests for comments at the time when the article was published.

He took Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine and the first mRNA booster without side effects, Musk said.

Musk posted a string of Twitter posts in response to a post by Rasmussen Reports which is criticizing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s narrative that major side effects after COVID vaccination are “rare.”

Americans Link COVID Vaccines to Mysterious Deaths

A new Rasmussen Reports poll, released on Jan. 2 and based on a representative sample of 1,000 American adults, shows that nearly half of Americans believe that the COVID-19 vaccines probably caused a “significant number of unexplained deaths,” while over a quarter said they personally know someone whose death may have been caused by vaccination side effects.
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Full article:
Elon Musk Reveals ‘Major Side Effects’ After 2nd COVID Booster | The Epoch Times
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Your are now quoting a completely ignorant layman from a goofy quack website. Still waiting on those peer reviewed articles. Elon Mysk knows exactly as much about this as you do. In other words nothing.
 
Concart said:
Phoenyx said:
Any article that's open to the public can be reviewed by relevant experts if they so choose. The problem with peer reviewed journals is that viewpoints that they have inherent biases, both for supporting false results that support dominant narratives and quashing unpopular viewpoints. Some articles you might find interesting:

How Bias Is Ruining Scientific Research : If it bleeds (or has a miracle result), it leads | The American Spectator

Peer Review Bias: A Critical Review | sciencedirect.com



See above in regards to peer reviewed journals, but there are plenty of articles that can be reviewed by anyone that show evidence that the Covid vaccines have harmful effects. Here's 2 that were recently published over at Children's Health Defense:

‘Cause Unknown’: Ed Dowd’s Pioneering Exploration of Sudden Deaths After the Rollout of COVID Vaccines | Children's Health Defense

COVID Vaccines Linked to Shingles Reactivation | Children's Health Defense
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Lol so you have nothing.
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The discerning viewer will note that Concart's statement is clearly false.
 
Concart said:
Phoenyx said:
No, I'm quoting a fairly well known news source, which was quoting one of the richest men in the world, Elon Musk.
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Epoch Times?
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That's right.

Concart said:
ROTFLMFAO!!!

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...imes-a-mysterious-pro-trump-newspaper/617645/

A Pro-Trump website that pushes conspiracy theories.
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I took a look at your article and found it to be quite interesting. From your article, The Epoch Times to be far more than your sound bite description above. It certainly appears to have flaws, but as the old saying goes, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater". I've found that Children Health's Defense, a site founded by JFK's nephew RFK Jr., sometimes runs their articles on its site, which I find understandable considering the substantial work that is put in many of them.

Concart said:
Being rich does not make you a medical expert.
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No, but in Elon Musk's case, it has given him a wide audience- things he says are paid attention to, and when he's using that to shed light on the evidence concerning the dangers of Covid vaccines, I think that's a great thing.

Concart said:
Elon Musk actually appears to be a complete moron.
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And you're back to ad hominem attacks -.-
 
Phoenyx said:
That's right.



I took a look at your article and found it to be quite interesting. From your article, The Epoch Times to be far more than your sound bite description above. It certainly appears to have flaws, but as the old saying goes, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater". I've found that Children Health's Defense, a site founded by JFK's nephew RFK Jr., sometimes runs their articles on its site, which I find understandable considering the substantial work that is put in many of them.



No, but in Elon Musk's case, it has given him a wide audience- things he says are paid attention to, and when he's using that to shed light on the evidence concerning the dangers of Covid vaccines, I think that's a great thing.



And you're back to ad hominem attacks -.-
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So you are Elon Musk? A broad audience does not make him more intelligent. It makes his audience dumber. Lots of people felt ill after taking the vaccine. So what?

ROTFLMFAO!!! Musk has run Twitter and Tesla into the ground. Only a complete moron would do what he has done to those companies. But that's beside the point. I will not, EVER consider Epoch Times a source that is more reliable than a peer reviewed journal article. That you do speaks volumes about your intelligence.
 
Phoenyx said:
According to who? And what do you think concerning the evidence of adverse events from them?
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on every box sold

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this very thread exposes the hypocrisy of the so called 'saving lives' bullshit. People who have died due to conditions brought on by the experimental vaccine are flippantly discarded as little more than an afterthought, given a tiny bit of 'sympathy', but your overall selfishness reigns supreme as you continue pushing for others to open themselves up to issues.
 
Celticguy said:
on every box sold

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$50 says that was written by lawyers, not doctors.

OTOH, you're free to disregard the advice of medical professionals around the world and go with the advice of your Facebook friends. God bless America! :thup:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
Can face masks help slow the spread of the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)? Yes. Face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as getting vaccinated, frequent hand-washing and physical distancing, can help slow the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends masks for the general public. If you're in an area with a high number of people with COVID-19 in the hospital and new COVID-19 cases, the CDC recommends wearing a well-fitted mask indoors in public, whether or not you're vaccinated.

The CDC says that you should wear the most protective mask possible that you'll wear regularly, fits well and is comfortable. Respirators such as nonsurgical N95s give the most protection. KN95s and medical masks provide the next highest level of protection. Cloth masks provide less protection. The CDC says that surgical N95 masks should be reserved for health care providers.

If you have a weakened immune system or have a higher risk of serious illness, wear a mask that provides you with the most protection possible when you're in an area with a high number of people with COVID-19 in the hospital and new COVID-19 cases. Check with your healthcare provider to see if you should wear a mask when you're in an area with a lower number of new COVID-19 cases and people with COVID-19 in the hospital.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
this very thread exposes the hypocrisy of the so called 'saving lives' bullshit. People who have died due to conditions brought on by the experimental vaccine are flippantly discarded as little more than an afterthought, given a tiny bit of 'sympathy', but your overall selfishness reigns supreme as you continue pushing for others to open themselves up to issues.
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I imagine someone here will say that it's not been proven that anyone has died from Covid jabs. In response, I'd say that while it may not have been proven, it's extremely -likely- that many have indeed died due to the Covid jabs. And that's not even counting all the people who have likely been injured by Covid jabs.

Meanwhile, I've found that the evidence that these jabs have helped anyone is flimsy at best.
 
Phoenyx said:
I imagine someone here will say that it's not been proven that anyone has died from Covid jabs. In response, I'd say that while it may not have been proven, it's extremely -likely- that many have indeed died due to the Covid jabs. And that's not even counting all the people who have likely been injured by Covid jabs.

Meanwhile, I've found that the evidence that these jabs have helped anyone is flimsy at best.
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Lots of people died because they DIDN'T get vaccinated. Hundreds of thousands of them.
 
the duplicity of pro vaxxers is hilarious

Scenario #1: someone with a heart condition got covid while unvaxxed - conclusion: they died of covid

Scenario #2: someone with a heart condition got covid after being vaxxed - conclusion: they died of a heart condition
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the duplicity of pro vaxxers is hilarious

Scenario #1: someone with a heart condition got covid while unvaxxed - conclusion: they died of covid

Scenario #2: someone with a heart condition got covid after being vaxxed - conclusion: they died of a heart condition
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I definitely agree that the way the CDC and others have twisted the numbers to suit their ends is something.
 
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