James Dobson - ANOTHER Phony Christian

cawacko said:
Spanking is pretty prevalent in the black community. There's a long history of it going back to slavery where parents would hit their kids to teach them not to act a certain way around their master's.

Lot easier for well to do white people to say blacks aren't Christian because they spank right?
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Spanking is unchristian, if it came from slavery, it is just another of the evils inflicted upon black culture by whites. I don't think doing something that's unchristian causes you to not be a Christian.
 
Jarod said:
Spanking is unchristian, if it came from slavery, it is just another of the evils inflicted upon black culture by whites. I don't think doing something that's unchristian causes you to not be a Christian.
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This is what you said about Dobson:

""I once read his book about spanking, since then I have known him to be a false Christian in my book. He promotes fear over love.""


If you can do something that's unchristian and still be a Christian what makes a false Christian then?
 
cawacko said:
This is what you said about Dobson:

""I once read his book about spanking, since then I have known him to be a false Christian in my book. He promotes fear over love.""


If you can do something that's unchristian and still be a Christian what makes a false Christian then?
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Its one thing to do something that is unchristian, its another for a man who is educated in Christianity and a minister to write a book promoting something that is so clearly opposite of Christian teachings. We all make mistakes, this man is under a belief that Christianity is something very opposite to the teachings of Christ. Its not like he made a mistake or had a lapse in judgement, he wrote a book advocating the hitting of children under the guise that its consistent with the loving teachings of Jesus Christ.
 
Jarod said:
Spanking is unchristian, if it came from slavery, it is just another of the evils inflicted upon black culture by whites. I don't think doing something that's unchristian causes you to not be a Christian.
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Spare the rod, spoil the child. Pretty sure that came before slavery.
 
A 17th century poem by Samuel Butler called “Hudibras”. In the poem, a love affair is likened to a child, and spanking is mockingly commended as a way to make the love grow stronger. The actual verse reads [1]:
"What medicine else can cure the fits
Of lovers when they lose their wits?
Love is a boy by poets styled
Then spare the rod and spoil the child."
 
Spanking is a sex act.

It has been for a very long time—probably even longer than it’s been a parenting choice.

A fresco at the Etruscan Tomb of the Whipping, which dates back to approximately 490 B.C., depicts an erotic spanking.

In Francum, a 1599 epigram by John Davies, includes one of the most explicit descriptions of sexual masochism in Renaissance poetry.

In Victorian England—well, there are way too many examples to list them all, so suffice it to say that spanking was a constant focus of Victorian erotica.

It’s weird that no one worries about the implications of hitting children on a body part that is culturally and biologically sexual.

If literature is any evidence, it was only in the past few centuries that people began to ritualistically strike the buttocks. Before that, we didn’t euphemize childhood beatings by isolating them to one specific body part.

It disturbs me that when I Google the word 'spanking', I find far more websites about sex than I do about parenting, yet most people still think the act is appropriate to inflict on children.


http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2014/09/spanking_is_a_sex_act_which_is_why_it_should_not_be_used_for_punishing_children.html
 
Jarod said:
I don't know about that, many people I know who call themselves Christians do not believe that. I don't believe that. I believe you die with the mindset you lived with, if its fear based.. its not very heaven like, if its love based... its heavenly.
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Look at your avatar for instance. Is there any love in that? You claim to support Hillary Clinton but you rarely speak why you think she should be President. Instead what you do is try to argue how bad Trump would be, thus using fear.

Edit: Now maybe you don't consider yourself a Christian in which case it wouldn't matter but if you're not a Christian you're awfully judgmental on who is one.
 
The fact is that anyone who claims to know whether someone is Christian or not is breaking the second worst sin there is.
Only God and the individual know and God isnt talking till the end.
 
cawacko said:
Look at your avatar for instance. Is there any love in that? You claim to support Hillary Clinton but you rarely speak why you think she should be President. Instead what you do is try to argue how bad Trump would be, thus using fear.

Edit: Now maybe you don't consider yourself a Christian in which case it wouldn't matter but if you're not a Christian you're awfully judgmental on who is one.
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Its not fear... I support HRC and have said why many many times. She will preserve the gains we have attained in the Supreme Court, I trust her judgement and ability in doing what will need to be done to further improve the health care system, She knows how politics works and will be (Better than Obama has been) better suited to work with Congress.

She is not perfect, I think she can be arrogant, and considers herself above following basic rules, she is also more aggressive internationally than I think we should be.. but on all of her negatives I believe Trump would be worse.

I an not using fear and I have not said how bad Trump will be, in fact I have said he will be better than GWB was by a long shot.

I am a Christian, an imperfect one. But I don't advocate being imperfect or acting in an imperfect way.
 
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