JD Vance's ex-Marine cousin takes flamethrower to the VP's ass....

Damocles said:
No. But nice try. You do know that Zelenskyy apologized now, ay? My guess... They are negotiating currently in Saudi Arabia and we'll likely have some peace there soon. But hey, y'all can pretend that the future doesn't exist, plug your ears, and hope real hard that the war continues so you can be "right" in your vote to fund the forever war over actually working towards peace. I think that's a "winning" hand for you.

I choose to support peace there and hopefully save some Ukrainian lives, but y'all can keep pretending that the only way to "win" is through perpetual war, you can even run it through bureaucracy, you can call it the "Ministry of Peace".

Weird how the left have become the war hawk Neocons, it's like they all invested in the war machine or something.
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Maybe if the talks were about Ukraine and not about Trump. :dunno:
 
Damocles said:
It will be interesting to see if the left is still insisting that it was bad when there is a deal signed that brings peace to Ukraine.
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I know you believe that surrendering will bring peace to Ukraine, I just do not believe it. Ukraine has offered a no conditions cease fire since the beginning of the war. Putin could end the fighting any time he likes. Instead, he demands a surrender, or a near surrender so he can get a guaranteed win in the next war.

How did surrender work out for Czechoslovakia? Did it prevent WWII like they promised?

We are not going to prevent WWIII through weakness.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The proper response to NAZI's with Rabid hate of Russians....people who call Russians Orcs and openly abuse anyone who speaks Russian.
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Jewish Zelenskyy is a Nazi with a rabid hate of Russians? He openly abuses anyone who speaks Russian? Including himself? Zelenskyy is both part of the Jewish minority in Ukraine, and part of the native speaking Russian minority.
 
1420 interviews in Russia show that many people believe Ujktaine is full of Nazis. They believe attacking other European countries is needed to stop the Nazis. People can be convinced of ridiculous lies. Putin and Fox are proving that.
 
Nomad said:
Fat Lame.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Pushing Ukraine to surrender to an invader to "stop the killing" is appeasement.
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Nobody has done that. Appeasement would be leaving it to Russia, nobody has done that either.

Think Chamberlain and his "just the sudetenland" and then "just poland"... and... Yeah... Not what is happening here. Someone needs to study a bit of history to understand what he's talking about, and his initials are Dutch Uncle.

The leftist Neocon Plan:

1. Promote War. Any suggestion of and end to the war must be called "Appeasement".
2. Promote War. Any suggestion of a path to peace must be called "Appeasement".
3. Spend money on War. Any suggestion that we should work toward ending the war must be called "betrayal".
4. Throw more money at any War started by our Braindead Hero, because if the war ends so does his only contributions to the World.
 
Damocles said:
Nobody has done that. Appeasement would be leaving it to Russia, nobody has done that either.

Think Chamberlain and his "just the sudetenland" and then "just poland"... and... Yeah... Not what is happening here. Someone needs to study a bit of history to understand what he's talking about, and his initials are Dutch Uncle.

The leftist Neocon Plan:

1. Promote War. Any suggestion of and end to the war must be called "Appeasement".
2. Promote War. Any suggestion of a path to peace must be called "Appeasement".
3. Spend money on War. Any suggestion that we should work toward ending the war must be called "betrayal".
4. Throw more money at any War started by our Braindead Hero, because if the war ends so does his only contributions to the World.
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Duh. Isn't surrendering Russian occupied territory and forgetting all of the Russian atrocities appeasement?

Leftist Neo-Conservative? WTF? Are you being sarcastic again just to drive up posts, Damo?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Duh. Isn't surrendering Russian occupied territory and forgetting all of the Russian atrocities appeasement?

Leftist Neo-Conservative? WTF? Are you being sarcastic again just to drive up posts, Damo?
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Still not the same thing as appeasement. Words mean things. Chamberlain literally let him walk into those areas without any response, that is appeasement. An example of actual appeasement. When Russia invaded and took over the Crimean peninsula and Obama literally did nothing at all.... Appeasement.

I am not being sarcastic. I noted earlier that your plan to throw money at every war started by your braindead hero was a full circle and y'all have turned the corner and become neocons promoting endless war. You've gone so far left that you've met yourselves on the other side.

Oddly the guys that normally would promote endless wars are now talking peace. It's so weird to watch.
 
Damocles said:
Still not the same thing as appeasement. Words mean things. Chamberlain literally let him walk into those areas without any response, that is appeasement. An example of actual appeasement. When Russia invaded and took over the Crimean peninsula and Obama literally did nothing at all.... Appeasement.

I am not being sarcastic. I noted earlier that your plan to throw money at every war started by your braindead hero was a full circle and y'all have turned the corner and become neocons promoting endless war. You've gone so far left that you've met yourselves on the other side.

Oddly the guys that normally would promote endless wars are now talking peace. It's so weird to watch.
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Yes, words mean things. We'll have to agree to disagree on appeasing Putin.

Interesting.

Who is promoting endless wars?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yes, words mean things. We'll have to agree to disagree on appeasing Putin.

Interesting.

Who is promoting endless wars?
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Everyone that says that peace talks is a "betrayal" or "appeasement" (some have literally asked others why they are a traitor to THIS nation) and tells us that we must "support Ukraine until" without describing any condition in which it can end is supporting endless war. I say this because they demonstrate it.

Your support of mindless devotion and funding for endless war is a notable trait of Neocons...
 
Damocles said:
Everyone that says that peace talks is a "betrayal" or "appeasement" (some have literally asked others why they are a traitor to THIS nation) and tells us that we must "support Ukraine until" without describing any condition in which it can end is supporting endless war. I say this because they demonstrate it.
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Peace talks aren't appeasement. Pushing Ukraine to surrender to Putin's demands is appeasement but, again, as a Trump supporter, you don't agree. I get it.

Meanwhile, Trump is going to start a war in the Middle East. So much for those who don't like "endless wars". LOL
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Peace talks aren't appeasement. Pushing Ukraine to surrender to Putin's demands is appeasement but, again, as a Trump supporter, you don't agree. I get it.

Meanwhile, Trump is going to start a war in the Middle East. So much for those who don't like "endless wars". LOL
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I am not a "supporter" I am noting that your brainless hero didn't even bother trying to talk to the folks in the war about ending it.

And I do not believe that Trump is "going to start a war" in the Middle East... you can "lol" a bunch but you cannot tell me which war Trump started or entangled us in during over 4 years of him being President... because there are none.

What I do know. You continue to support funding a never ending war, even speaking of any ending is a "betrayal" in your eyes. You have become that thing you hated in GWB's terms, an actual Neocon.
 
Damocles said:
I am not a "supporter" I am noting that your brainless hero didn't even bother trying to talk to the folks in the war about ending it.

And I do not believe that Trump is "going to start a war" in the Middle East... you can "lol" a bunch but you cannot tell me which war Trump started or entangled us in during over 4 years of him being President... because there are none.

What I do know. You continue to support funding a never ending war, even speaking of any ending is a "betrayal" in your eyes. You have become that thing you hated in GWB's terms, an actual Neocon.
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Trump started the negotiation to end a 20 year war in Afghanistan even if our brainless pResident botched the pull out.
 
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