It's the words of Jesus. Do you think the various Writers of the Bible may have 'spruced up' what they wrote?
Jesus Christ as God and the Trinity Was Not Invented Until the Fourth Century?
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It's the words of Jesus. Do you think the various Writers of the Bible may have 'spruced up' what they wrote?
hahahaha ... I was going to say 'some faggoty Christian' but will refrain because I know not of his sexuality, I have a guess, but will still refrain.
Did the best I could.
Mr. Grugore, I hope this thread has taught you the lesson of casting pearls to swine. Jpp is largely a forum of heathens. Jpp is not the place for legitimate spiritual discussion. Whenever legitimate spiritual discourse has begun, the damned will make it an opportunity to blaspheme the Holy name of Jesus. The damned are cut off from understanding and it is foolish to cast precious pearls of wisdom and understanding before these beasts.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
so your argument is that both you and Jefferson have lied about what the scriptures say........okay......
you aren't the first ignorant person to say so........you are free, as is guano, to wallow in your own beliefs.....
I mentioned the 'Jefferson Bible' as a way to look at the Bible as a 'Philosophical' expression. Without all the 'occult' stuff that clouds the message. Cluttering the words of Jesus with 'magic' stuff doesn't enhance the message, it does just the opposite.
We all have our own Beliefs, that's what is nice about political forums, we can share our Beliefs. guno has his view (calling others 'Goyim' and 'pork gobblers') distilled from his religious upbringing, I have mine, and you have yours that were probably instilled in you as a very young person.
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
You seem as though you see that as a 'sin', and probably once in Power, deny me my 'bacon and eggs'.
sin? pork gobbling?
Yes. You seem quite hung up on it. As though you were taught (like PMP) from an early age. How extensive was your religious upbringing? Do you still believe the Hebrews are the 'Chosen People'? Are you able to write the word 'God', or is that forbidden in your religion?
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
You mean casting education and knowledge at bible thumping pork gooblers
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
I can argue against the pork gobblers from an atheist perspective or a Jewish one, since the christians claim they derived from Judaism , it is very effective to argue from that perspective
ah oh goyim!!
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PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I think you mean to say its a way to look at the Bible as Jefferson's philosophical expression......not very meaningful that way, is it......
I can argue against the pork gobblers from an atheist perspective or a Jewish one, since the christians claim they derived from Judaism , it is very effective to argue from that perspective
You seem to avoid my question. I'll assume you are still a devout Orthodox Jew.
guno: "I can argue against the pork gobblers from an atheist perspective or a Jewish one"
Jack: Cool. Go ahead. What's your problem with bacon and ham sandwiches?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
what do you pretend is effective about an irrational atheist's perspective?.......
It's NOT Jefferson's POV. It is the words of Jesus. The 'occult' and 'magic' parts are deleted. It's a common sense approach to the philosophy of Jesus, if you're interested. Some people like the magic, the occult the voodoo involved. I guess that's fun. I know I like Halloween.
I doubt 'atheists' have a problem with pork.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
???......no.....its all the words of Jesus that Jefferson thinks are okay......
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
Never was, all Jewish kids went to Hebrew school, after regular school, learned to read write and understand biblical Hebrew, By the time most Jewish kids reach 13 and had their bar mitzvah they have already rejected the mythology as fact or reality , but not the culture and people hood which stresses education and knowledge, there is no demand of "belief" in Judaism , the jew community comprises everything from orthodox to humanist (atheism)
Pork is one sign of the christians kulture, you may gobble it all you like
It's the words of Jesus without the ridiculous side claims. It's about a 100 pages and available for about 10 bucks. You seem interested in the subject, you should buy it. Might be an interesting read for you?
guno: "all Jewish kids went to Hebrew school".
Jack: Secular Jews don't go to 'Hebrew School', they assimilate into American society.
guno: "but not the culture and people hood"
Jack: Your 'culture' of calling people "Goyim' and 'pork gobblers' proves your bias.
Guno: "Pork is one sign of the christians kulture, you may gobble it all you like"
Jack: Notice how you phrase it as religious? You taut your Belief not as religious, but as 'culture'. Your 'culture' IS religious.
Like most religious types, you HATE other religious types. You can call it 'culture' to fool yourself, but you ARE a religious person.
I'll rephrase my original question: Does your 'culture' allow you to write the word 'God'? Does your 'culture' tell you the Hebrews are the 'Chosen People'?
Nothing wrong with a blind guess that there is a god...but why anyone would want to blindly guess that the god "damns" people is beyond me. I do suspect, however, that fear of being "damned" is what prompts you poor jerks to claim to love this god...who doesn't even seem likeable...let alone lovable.