Kamala Harris wants to give teachers raises .

PostmodernProphet said:
agreed......and its not the whole country's problem to solve........the federal government should not take over local schools..........the fact they keep intruding IS part of the problem.......
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The feds should set standards for schools to achieve. You should be able to move from state to state and get a comparable education. States rights invariably result in lowering the overall quality of anything it is allowed into. Like banking. Allowing credit card companies and banks to cross lines resulting in weakening the rights of consumers across the nation. A couple states gutted usury rules and allowed banks freedom to gouge. Every bank pretended to move headquarters there so they could get the breaks and loot us all.
We are a nation and standards should be the same across the country.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no, I found it in what she said.....as usual, you're pretty much irrelevant......she wants teachers to get higher salaries using federal funds.......
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Why does it fucking matter where the funds come from? Why is that putting a bee in your sphincter? Do rightys hate everything?
 
Nordberg said:
The feds should set standards for schools to achieve. You should be able to move from state to state and get a comparable education. States rights invariably result in lowering the overall quality of anything it is allowed into. Like banking. Allowing credit card companies and banks to cross lines resulting in weakening the rights of consumers across the nation. A couple states gutted usury rules and allowed banks freedom to gouge. Every bank pretended to move headquarters there so they could get the breaks and loot us all.
We are a nation and standards should be the same across the country.
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States' rights gave us lawyers for defendants long before the Supreme Court mandated it and their decision was based partially on the fact that so many states already provided them, states' rights gave us gay marriage long before the Supreme Court mandated it and mentioned its growing acceptance among the states, states gave us legalization of marijuana while the federal government still makes it illegal and half-ass enforces the law, states' right gave us universal healthcare, states' rights gave us term limits on legislative seats, states' rights gave us public funding for elections, states' rights gave us legalized abortion long before Roe v. Wade, states' rights gave us death with dignity for the terminally ill, states' rights gave us rape shield laws, states' rights gave us shield laws protecting sources of journalists, states' right gave us laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual preference which do not exist in federal civil rights laws.......

I am not making an argument for or against any of these policies, only arguing that states are often more progressive than the federal government and their leadership actually results in the federal government adopting these policies.
 
Nordberg said:
Have someone read and explain post 41 for you. States rights is a rush to the bottom and a gift to the wealthy and corporations. YIt is sophistical. In practice, harmful to the people.
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have someone stick their finger in your ear and laugh........I'm tired of doing it.......
 
Flash said:
States' rights gave us lawyers for defendants long before the Supreme Court mandated it and their decision was based partially on the fact that so many states already provided them, states' rights gave us gay marriage long before the Supreme Court mandated it and mentioned its growing acceptance among the states, states gave us legalization of marijuana while the federal government still makes it illegal and half-ass enforces the law, states' right gave us universal healthcare, states' rights gave us term limits on legislative seats, states' rights gave us public funding for elections, states' rights gave us legalized abortion long before Roe v. Wade, states' rights gave us death with dignity for the terminally ill, states' rights gave us rape shield laws, states' rights gave us shield laws protecting sources of journalists, states' right gave us laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual preference which do not exist in federal civil rights laws.......

I am not making an argument for or against any of these policies, only arguing that states are often more progressive than the federal government and their leadership actually results in the federal government adopting these policies.
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sorry to burst your bubble but every example you gave were federal court decisions imposing one states choices on all the others........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
sorry to burst your bubble but every example you gave were federal court decisions imposing one states choices on all the others........
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You have it backwards. States initiated all these programs and had them for several years before the Supreme Court imposed some of them on all the states. Some were state legislative actions and others by state court decisions.

For example, MA had same sex marriage in 2004 and Obergefell v. Hodges did not occur until 2015. By then, multiple states had gay marriage.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
sorry to burst your bubble but every example you gave were federal court decisions imposing one states choices on all the others........
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You have it backwards. States initiated all these programs and had them for several years before the Supreme Court imposed some of them on all the states. Some were state legislative actions and others by state court decisions.

For example, MA had same sex marriage in 2004 and Obergefell v. Hodges did not occur until 2015. By then, multiple states had gay marriage. In 1963 in Gideon v. Wainwright when the court said all states must prove an attorney for indigent felony defendants, the decision itself said the fact that many states (36??) already provided an attorney illustrated how important states already considered this right to be.
 
Vasquezrocks said:
Kamala Harris wants to give school teachers a $13,500 raise !

Wake up twat !

50% of our school aged kids cannot even READ !

Ya ... Teachers need a raise for that . Bite me bitch !
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Well, everyone else are getting raises in this economy, it seems a bit strange for teachers to be left out. The average yearly salary increase right now is 3.4% but for teachers its more like 2%. Currently there are major teacher shortages and a lot of turnover which is reducing the quality of our education. This is because teaching is such a low-paying profession and teachers haven't benefited from an improved economy like everyone else. When there is a lot of turnover, you want to increase wages so that more people will join the profession and we can get higher quality workers. But I think $13,500 is a little too much, and I'd settle for 5% annual increases for teachers (maybe a 10% increase the first year) until turnover falls to normal levels. Also, teachers should definitely not be paying for classroom supplies out of pocket. Classroom supplies should be paid for by their employer. But I think this pay question should be for individual states to make, not the national government. We should also switch our education to year-round, so that teachers can be paid for all year and our kids will be more skilled graduating high school.
 
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