Keep Calling It an Insurrection

RB 60 said:
Do you believe every one who voted for Trump supported their actions?
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Why does that matter.? All those who were trying to overthrow the government on 1-6 were Repub/ Trumpies. A big chunk of Trumpies want to end the American system. You are as guilty as they are in philosophy if not in deed. Trump is a threat to the American experiment, the worst one we have faced since the civil war.
 
Darth Omar said:
Well, your post is an intellectual failure lol.

The SJW’s weren’t calling for *a political remedy* with their misguided protests over Floyd’s death? I think that makes their protests and associated violence kinda political. And Antifa was being ‘apolitical’ when they attacked police precincts? Really?

That’s weak.

It’s not whataboutism to put them and the mostly Trump rioters all in same box labeled ‘political violence’. It is what it is. If it quacks, it’s a duck. It went on through most of 2020 and bled into 2021 on 1/6.
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The difference isn’t intellectually difficult: rioting in protest of racial discrimination and poverty is social unrest. Rioting in protest of the result of a Presidential election is political.
 
martin said:
It was an insurrection Trump style. So it was impetuous of course, clumsy and bungled, but an insurrection nevertheless. It doesn’t get a pass because it failed.
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Trump never supported either Antifa nor BLM. It did not fail. The false flag operation was successfully executed. Democrats successfully executed a soft coup (for now) and installed a Prime Puppet, and are currently converting the federal government into an oligarchy in order to implement fascism. I call it the SODC now.
 
Nordberg said:
It was an attempted forced coup to overthrow the American system. They wanted to put the loser of the election back in office. It was very 3rd world of them. It was a terrible day for America and rightys should be ashamed.
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There was no election. The DEMOCRATS faulted it. You can't lose what never took place. It is DEMOCRATS that successfully (for now) executed a coup. It is a terrible day for America.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello martin,



It qualifies as one, haphazard as it was. The thing is: different people went there for different reasons; and some of them got caught up in something they did not plan for. Others had definite nefarious plans and imagined the rest were with them. Some tried to urge the hapless crowd on, but when they were inside the capitol most of them didn't know what to do as the worst of them were looking for politicians to murder.

The overall intent was to stop the government from doing it's job.

They did so for a while, but the courageous government bravely came right back to work and finished their task, even if it took most of the night.

Imagine the 'steal stoppers,' thinking they had accomplished their task, and they headed home only to wake up the next day and learn they had no effect on government function, that it went on anyway. And now their butts were being sought by authorities. Talk about going from the top of the hill to becoming the lowest of low lifes in the news, mocked and derided for attacking America.

But they carried flags with them!

Doesn't that count for anything?

Even if they were mounted on spears as they forced their way into capitol...
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Fascism is not the government's job. Destroying the Constitution is not the government's job.
 
martin said:
It was an insurrection Trump style. So it was impetuous of course, clumsy and bungled, but an insurrection nevertheless. It doesn’t get a pass because it failed.
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You'll see an insurrection if and when it happens..that was a bunch of "rabble rabble" with pitchforks and torches.

They pumped themselves up to do something that was a bad idea.
 
martin said:
It was a physical assault by Americans on the United States Government.

Period.
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And it still is. DEMOCRATS funded and supported Antifa and BLM. DEMOCRATS are implementing fascism by converting the federal government into an oligarchy. DEMOCRATS do not recognized the Constitution of the United States nor any State constitution.
 
American Man said:
Do you acknowledge that Trump incited it and that he could have put an end to it as simply as posting a Tweet telling the mob to stand down?
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No. Videos of Trump's speeches are still available for viewing (unedited), but not on Youtube nor any news outlet. You can find them on Bitchute, Rumble, and Gab.
 
martin said:
Nice you found her fear amusing. Typical that you would. She was in a building annexed to the main Capitol building, could hear the sounds of the assault, security was as much or more concerned for her safety as for other Congressmen and women, knowing how much she is disliked by people like yourself.
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AOC claimed to be in the Capitol building.
 
martin said:
I don't remember saying the President's predicament that time was amusing. But do you think the two events are comparable or that there was even a sliver of a chance the lives of the President and his family were in danger?
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Yes. Antifa and BLM was out of control (again)...two violent factions supported and funded by DEMOCRATS.
 
martin said:
There was comparatively little political violence. The violence associated with BLM riots was social violence. But "what's wrong with this" is the constant whataboutism the Right throws up at every controversy that involves them, rather than face an issue head on. It's mainly a moral failure but an intellectual failure as well.
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Special pleading fallacy.
 
martin said:
The difference isn’t intellectually difficult: rioting in protest of racial discrimination and poverty is social unrest. Rioting in protest of the result of a Presidential election is political.
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Word games.

The SJW’s were after *political change* vis a vis law enforcement policy. What do you think started the defund cops movement?

It was protesting that led to political violence. You don’t even have the word game option with Antifa.

It’s all the same thing. It’s just a bigger deal when the right does it.
 
Nordberg said:
Why does that matter.? All those who were trying to overthrow the government on 1-6 were Repub/ Trumpies.
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Antifa and BLM do not support Trump, and Trump does not support them. They are not Republicans either. They are both funded and supported by Democrats.
Nordberg said:
A big chunk of Trumpies want to end the American system.
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Inversion fallacy. You are describing DEMOCRATS.
Nordberg said:
You are as guilty as they are in philosophy if not in deed.
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Inversion fallacy.
Nordberg said:
Trump is a threat to the American experiment,
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Inversion fallacy. You are describing DEMOCRATS.
Nordberg said:
the worst one we have faced since the civil war.
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The War of Secession was not a civil war. The United States has had civil uprisings, usually by Democrats or funded and supported by Democrats. Now Democrats have executed (for now) a successful soft coup, converted Washington DC into an armed camp, and are converting the federal government into an oligarchy, discarding the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.

This is worse than the days of the War of Secession. It is the fall of the federal government into oligarchy.
 
Into the Night said:
No difference.
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Not to you. Forming a cogent thought requires a minimum of two functioning brain cells to interact with one another.

You, One Cell Birdy, have never demonstrated the capacity to do any two-cell requiring task.

You can apparently type a little--some sort of idiot savant phenomenon--but anything approaching a lucid thought sourced from you has yet to find this forum's pages.
 
Darth Omar said:
Word games.

The SJW’s were after *political change* vis a vis law enforcement policy. What do you think started the defund cops movement?

It was protesting that led to political violence. You don’t even have the word game option with Antifa.

It’s all the same thing. It’s just a bigger deal when the right does it.
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Last try. BLM protests are demands on society generally. Yes, they require political measures, but the demands are broader than that and the political aspects of them aren’t limited to any particular political party. The Capitol riot had a singular, purely partisan political aim.
 
martin said:
Last try. BLM protests are demands on society generally. Yes, they require political measures, but the demands are broader than that and the political aspects of them aren’t limited to any particular political party. The Capitol riot had a singular, purely partisan political aim.
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You’re a gamer for sure.
 
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