KEY ELEMENTS OF PRESIDENT BIDEN’S PLAN FOR A CLEAN ENERGY REVOLUTION

[dukkha]

It can't be done with current technology.

it cant be miniaturized -its not about the tech,it's about the fact a wide array is needed to pick up enough photons
That cant be changed. It's the same idea of massive mirrors in a telescope to capture enough light

 

[T. A. Gardner]

It can't be done with current technology.

It can't be done period. You have the watt density of sunlight as your controlling factor. You can only gather as much sunlight as you have surface area. Even if you make the PV cells far more efficient you are still limited to 1.3 to 1.4 kW per square yard or meter. This means with current technology you need an array roughly 225 miles on a side to match ONE large coal fired power plant as they now exist. You also need roughly $10 billion in battery capacity taking up more area to hold power for when the sun goes down.
If the PV cells were say 90% efficient instead of 20% you could reduce the array to about 50 miles on a side with the same battery capacity. Even that is insanely inefficient.

One nuclear power plant on roughly 5,000 acres of land can supply most larger population states with as much as 25 to 30% of their energy needs all on its own. That means the most energy hungry states would need 2 or 3 nuclear plants along with about a dozen smaller natural gas peaking plants that run intermittently to provide variable load power while the nuclear plants provide base load. No smart grid necessary. No massive tangle of transmission lines necessary. Just a handful of plants supplying reliable and on-demand electricity at very low cost per KWH.

Solar is a utter and complete loser. Wind's a bit better but still loses to the above.

 

[BartenderElite]

it cant be miniaturized -its not about the tech,it's about the fact a wide array is needed to pick up enough photons
That cant be changed. It's the same idea of massive mirrors in a telescope to capture enough light

Unless you have a crystal ball, that simply isn't true.

Basically everything we use and do now technologically was called "impossible" at some point.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Trump has spent his presidency ignoring the experts and scientists, reversing the Obama-Biden Administration’s efforts to address climate change, abandoning communities and workers, and blocking states and cities trying to lead— going backwards, all while we should have been doing even more.

On the first day of President Biden’s Administration, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, there will only be 9 years left to stop the worst consequences of climate change. Biden will act on climate immediately and ambitiously, because there’s no time to waste.

Teere are 9 key elements of Joe Biden’s plan for a Clean Energy Revolution and Environmental Justice.


https://joebiden.com/9-key-elements-of-joe-bidens-plan-for-a-clean-energy-revolution/#

i'm curious about bidens commitment to clean energy.........is he going to convert the government agencis (fed and state) as well as all the law enforcement agencies (fed and state) AND the military to clean energy vehicles first??????

 

[Diogenes]

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Biden is an idiot on energy policy and that video is proof of it. BTT, you are nothing but at technological and engineering illiterate who parrots Biden's nonsense. Why not prove anything I've claimed in this thread, and others on energy production, wrong? My guess is you can't. Biden couldn't if I debated him on this subject. Solar and wind are complete losers. We don't need a smart grid if we do things right. Nuclear and natural gas are the answer right now. Moving vehicles to fuel cells using hydrogen, ammonia, or even methane are realistic solutions to less CO2 (if you believe that truly is the problem) and a cleaner environment. Solar and wind aren't even particularly environmentally friendly. Just one more reason to oppose their use.

 

[cancel2 2022]

They need hitting harder than that or it's a licence to pollute. It has to be financially unthinkable to pollute. Polluting must become illegal, sooner rather than later.

We're going to have to change our lifestyles, girls and boys.

You're certifiable, the CCP would laugh themselves sick!

 

[cancel2 2022]

AOC is a technical and engineering illiterate. That is a fact, and indisputable. Only the studiously ignorant or retarded would listen to her on energy policy for a nanosecond.

This is the progenitor of the Green New Deal. Would any sane, reasonable person listen to such a complete and useless scientific, technical, and engineering illiterate? What it shows is the Democrat party favors appearance and political correctness over sound, reasoned, logical policy. It is a thorough and complete example of why one should never elect a Democrat, particularly one that's admittedly Progressive or Leftist to ANY office of power at any level.

Maybe Biden will.make her Energy Secretary?

 

[cancel2 2022]

How many times have you heard some prick(ette) moan about islands disappearing under the waves due to CAGW. However Mother Nature steadfastly refuses to follow the script. The highest point on the Maldives is eight foot and according to climate extremists should under the waves by now. So why is then that the Maldivians has built five new airports, anybody want to answer that?

Five new airports will come into operation by the end of the year, Maldives government announced Sunday.

Five new airports will come into operation by the end of the year (2019), Maldives government announced Sunday.

Transport minister Aishath Nahula told local media that construction of airports on the islands of Kulhudhuffushi in Haa Dhaal atoll, Funadhoo in Shaviyani atoll, Maafaru in Noonu atoll, Madivaru in Lhaviyani atoll and Maavarulu in Gaaf Dhaal atoll is nearing completion. Kulhudhuffushi airport will come into operation first, followed by Funadhoo and Maafaru airport in August, she said.

The airport being developed in Kulhudhuffushi, a key population zone in the north, and in Maafaru, a proposed ultra-luxury tourism zone, had earlier welcomed test flights. However, delays in the construction of terminal and other support facilities had pushed back commercial operations.

Six hectares off the southern coast of Kulhudhuffushi and another nine hectares from the island’s wetlands were reclaimed for the airport, which has a runway measuring 1,200 metres in length and 60 metres in width.

Known as the “Heart of the North”, Kulhudhuffushi is the economic capital of the northern Maldives and has a population of over 9,000, making it one of the biggest and most populous islands in the northern part of the country. The island is famous for its mangroves, after which the island itself is named.

Up until recently, Haa Dhaal remained as the only atoll in the Maldives which did not have a tourist resort. That changed in March when Hondaafushi Island Resort became the first resort to open in the atoll.

The new airport is expected to facilitate the development of tourist resorts as well as guesthouses in the region.

Meanwhile, construction of the international airport in Maafaru had resumed after major delays due to a corruption scandal. Support facilities such as parking and staff accommodation are being built at the United Arab Emirates (UAE) funded airport.

The international airport is part of a joint Maldives-UAE project to develop Noonu atoll as an ultra-luxury tourism zone.

Abu Dhabi Fund for Development (ADFD) had earlier extended a grant of USD 60 million for the project, which involves developing a 2.2-kilometre runway along with state-of-the-art facilities to cater international flight operations and private jets. A city hotel will also be built along with the airport.

Noonu atoll is located about 180 kilometres north of capital Male, on the southern edge of the Maldives’ northernmost geographical atoll.

Existing high-end resorts in Noonu atoll include the Velaa Private Island, The Sun Siyam Iru Fushi Maldives, Cheval Blanc Randheli and the recently opened Soneva Jani. Several new resorts, including those by international hotel chains, are being developed in the atoll.

Meanwhile, Madivaru airport is nearing completion too.

Kuredu Holdings, which owns and operates several resorts in Lhaviyani atoll, is investing USD 13 million to develop the airport. The project involves reclaiming some three hectares of land from the lagoon of Madivaru, building a 1.2-kilometre runway, and a training academy for aviation officials from flagship carrier Maldivian and seaplane operator Trans Maldivian Airways (TMA).

The company can develop a city hotel to incentivise the airport operation.

Lhaviyani atoll has one of the highest concentrations of tourism activity in the Maldives, with eight resorts including Kuredu Resort Maldives, Komandoo Island Resort and Spa, Hurawalhi Maldives, Palm Beach Island Maldives Resort and Spa, Atmosphere Kanifushi, Kanuhura Maldives, Fushifaru Maldives and Cocoon Maldives already in operation. Several new islands in the atoll are being developed as resorts, including the recently launched Kudadoo Maldives Private Island by Hurawalhi and Innahura Maldives Resort.

Over a million tourists from across the globe visit the Indian Ocean island nation every year to holiday in one of the 120 resorts and 400 plus guesthouses located in all corners of the country. The multi-billion dollar tourism industry, which is the country’s main economic activity, relies heavily on the domestic transport infrastructure, especially air travel.

Maldives, the most dispersed country on the planet with 1,192 islands spread over roughly 90,000 square kilometres, already has 11 airports, including three international airports. The government has contracted both local and international companies to develop additional domestic airports across the archipelago in a bid to boost tourism.

https://maldives.net.mv/31166/maldives-to-open-five-new-airports-in-2019/

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[Hawkeye10]

Biden is an idiot on energy policy and that video is proof of it. BTT, you are nothing but at technological and engineering illiterate who parrots Biden's nonsense. Why not prove anything I've claimed in this thread, and others on energy production, wrong? My guess is you can't. Biden couldn't if I debated him on this subject. Solar and wind are complete losers. We don't need a smart grid if we do things right. Nuclear and natural gas are the answer right now. Moving vehicles to fuel cells using hydrogen, ammonia, or even methane are realistic solutions to less CO2 (if you believe that truly is the problem) and a cleaner environment. Solar and wind aren't even particularly environmentally friendly. Just one more reason to oppose their use.

Corn based ethanol was always moronic too but look at where we are.

 

[cancel2 2022]

it cant be miniaturized -its not about the tech,it's about the fact a wide array is needed to pick up enough photons
That cant be changed. It's the same idea of massive mirrors in a telescope to capture enough light

I wish they people would at least go and get a basic grounding in physical sciences, they ought to be embarrassed by their ignorance.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Biden is an idiot on energy policy and that video is proof of it. BTT, you are nothing but at technological and engineering illiterate who parrots Biden's nonsense. Why not prove anything I've claimed in this thread, and others on energy production, wrong? My guess is you can't. Biden couldn't if I debated him on this subject. Solar and wind are complete losers. We don't need a smart grid if we do things right. Nuclear and natural gas are the answer right now. Moving vehicles to fuel cells using hydrogen, ammonia, or even methane are realistic solutions to less CO2 (if you believe that truly is the problem) and a cleaner environment. Solar and wind aren't even particularly environmentally friendly. Just one more reason to oppose their use.

^^^
Another MAGA Moron catfished by Legina. LOL

 

[Dutch Uncle]

On day one, President Biden will make smart infrastructure investments to rebuild the nation and to ensure that our buildings, water, transportation, and energy infrastructure can withstand the impacts of climate change....

It's interesting to note that it's Democrat run states that have the shittiest infrastructure and most problems with it. I doubt that Biden or the Democrats can do anything competent to change that given their nearly half a century of totally screwing this up where they are in power.

What's more interesting is how easily Legina played Rope-a-Dope with MAGA morons. LOL