Kids, cages, and separation

I Love America said:
The difference is that Obama didn’t have a booming economy or an IG report highlighting previous administrations abuses of the FBI to try to ignore
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True.

But he did have these media reports to ignore, and apparently JPP liberals ignored them, too:

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/nyregion/15minors.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ate-human-rights-report-idUSTRE52O0VT20090325

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/us/23children.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/14/citizen.children/index.html

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/deportation-immigrant-children-foster-care_n_1072553.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/opinion/deporting-parents-ruins-kids.html

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/nearly-205k-deportations-parents-us-citizens-just-over-two-years

https://www.denverpost.com/2012/08/...cy-splits-families-when-parents-are-deported/

https://sandiegofreepress.org/2014/09/immigration-deportation-and-family-separation/

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/9/5880447/deportation-parents-children-families-return-deterrence-work

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-reform-obama-deportations-families-separated

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/im...cility-opened-immigrant-families-kids-n169666

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/16/border-detention-center-photos_n_5501167.html

http://america.aljazeera.com/multim...side-a-detentioncenterformigrantchildren.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/opinion/navarrette-immigrant-children/index.html
 
Nordberg said:
Don't do that. All or nothing? Who does that and thinks that wins an argument? Well you do. But it is wrong and I am not playing your immature games.
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So you know that not all of the kids Obama caged and separated from their families were unaccompanied, yet you were silent while he did it?
 
christiefan915 said:
Thanks, excellent article.
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Are these "excellent" articles, too? :D

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/nyregion/15minors.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ate-human-rights-report-idUSTRE52O0VT20090325

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/us/23children.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/14/citizen.children/index.html

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/deportation-immigrant-children-foster-care_n_1072553.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/opinion/deporting-parents-ruins-kids.html

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/nearly-205k-deportations-parents-us-citizens-just-over-two-years

https://www.denverpost.com/2012/08/...cy-splits-families-when-parents-are-deported/

https://sandiegofreepress.org/2014/09/immigration-deportation-and-family-separation/

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/9/5880447/deportation-parents-children-families-return-deterrence-work

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-reform-obama-deportations-families-separated

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/im...cility-opened-immigrant-families-kids-n169666

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/16/border-detention-center-photos_n_5501167.html

http://america.aljazeera.com/multim...side-a-detentioncenterformigrantchildren.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/opinion/navarrette-immigrant-children/index.html
 
When Obama did it, JPP libs were apparently OK with it

They can't pretend they didn't know, can they?


Legion said:
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BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MMMM, MMMM, MMMM.​


  • Obama separated parents from their children at the border.
  • Obama prosecuted mothers for coming to the United States illegally.
  • He fast tracked deportations.
  • And yes, he housed unaccompanied children in tent cities.

Obama took several actions that led to an outcry of fear and distrust, though his actions failed to get much attention.

One of the most controversial measures that Obama took was to resurrect the almost-abandoned practice of detaining mothers and children to deter future illegal immigration.

The government had one facility in central Pennsylvania and added three larger facilities in Texas and New Mexico holding thousands.

Obama would face legal challenges that stopped him from detaining mothers and children indefinitely.

A federal judge in California ruled that the Obama administration was violating a 20-year old case, known as Flores when it kept families detained for longer than 20 days.

Obama took other controversial steps as well, including fighting to block efforts to require unaccompanied children to have legal representation and barring detained mothers with their children from being released on bond.

“It's been going on for many, many decades and many years,” Trump said. “Whether it was President Bush, President Obama, President Clinton — same policies. They can't get them changed because both sides are always fighting. This is maybe a great chance to have a change.”


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article213525764.html
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Nerdberg said:
Still lying about that?"
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What am I supposedly lying about, Nerdberg?

Is this all fake news?

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/nyregion/15minors.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ate-human-rights-report-idUSTRE52O0VT20090325

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/us/23children.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/14/citizen.children/index.html

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/deportation-immigrant-children-foster-care_n_1072553.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/opinion/deporting-parents-ruins-kids.html

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/nearly-205k-deportations-parents-us-citizens-just-over-two-years

https://www.denverpost.com/2012/08/...cy-splits-families-when-parents-are-deported/

https://sandiegofreepress.org/2014/09/immigration-deportation-and-family-separation/

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/9/5880447/deportation-parents-children-families-return-deterrence-work

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-reform-obama-deportations-families-separated

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/im...cility-opened-immigrant-families-kids-n169666

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/16/border-detention-center-photos_n_5501167.html

http://america.aljazeera.com/multim...side-a-detentioncenterformigrantchildren.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/opinion/navarrette-immigrant-children/index.html


Answer yes or no, Nerdberg.
 
Remember when Obama detained & deported asylum seekers?

I do.

Legion said:

UNDER OBAMA, ASYLEES WERE CAGED FOR YEARS AND DEPORTED TO ALMOST CERTAIN DEATH​


Deporting asylum seekers is nothing new.

The Obama administration deported 85 Muslim asylum seekers from Bangladesh, India and Nepal who were seeking asylum after fleeing repression and violence in their home countries.

Some of the men deported from Corrections Corporations of America’s Florence Correctional Center in Arizona had participated in a series of hunger strikes last year to protest their ongoing detention by ICE, the Immigration Customs and Enforcement agency, and demanded their release from for-profit detention centers.

Some of the men had been detained for years.

After the deportation, Fahd Ahmed, executive director of a New York-based organization of South Asian immigrant workers and youth said, "The Obama administration deported nearly 100 South Asian detainees who crossed three continents seeking safety in the U.S. What happens to them is blood on his hands."



https://www.kcet.org/shows/democracy-now/episodes/why-did-obama-deport-85-muslim-asylum-seekers
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Zero tolerance means all those coming seeking asylum were prosecuted.
All families separated and all children taken away.
Zero tolerance is a euphemism for zero thinking, zero compassion, zero humanity and zero brains.

Evmetro, the well known racist, will never understand the outrage unless it happens to white kids.
 
It was not the Obama administration policy to separate families. That is called a fact. It is the Trump policy. He wants to hurt the desperate and poor people any way he can.
 
Nordberg said:
It was not the Obama administration policy to separate families. That is called a fact. It is the Trump policy. He wants to hurt the desperate and poor people any way he can.
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And keep his base riled up, and keep us distracted from the looming Mueller indictments, and keep us from noticing his many other failures and scandals.
 
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