There is no strawman. That is what he said. You are misrepresenting him.
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There is no strawman. That is what he said. You are misrepresenting him.
Ishmael Pequod
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What he said there does not negate what he said about ID. You wanted to deflect from the fact Einstein believed in Intelligent Design. Post what Einstein said about ID.
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If they are not making a falsifiable claim then are they making a claim? We can't prove what we have no knowledge of but there is no reason to pretend whatever we might imagine, that cannot be falsified, is then plausible. And it is not equivalent to what can be falsified but has not been and is well explained by a hypothesis that has been thoroughly tested.
Our knowledge is always contextual and therefore never absolutely certain, but that does not mean that what we know is really only what we believe. PMP and sf are both attacking good epistemology with childish nonsense.
No, I wanted to deflect from the notion that you are with Einstein. You are not. You are just a lying scumbag who misrepresents his views.
He never showed any apparent support of intelligent design. He talked of intelligence in the world, mentioned pantheism and Spinoza frequently when pressed on God. It implies that his view was that God is in all things and that all things are in God. He felt a spiritual connection to existence or the universe and an awe inspiring fulfillment from enlightenment. That does not make him a proponent of intelligent design and certainly not a supporter of your idiotic religious views.
Ishmael Pequod
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Read it for yourself. Anyone can. Cocksucking bootlicker.
Ishmael Pequod
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"The scientist's religious feelings form a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection." Albert Einstein.
Suck on that for a while.
Suck on that for a while.
Read what, liar?
Ishmael Pequod
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Right above, post #526.
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SF is acting in good faith I believe.
Nothing in there states that he believes in intelligent design. It's in perfect harmony with pantheism and Spinoza, of which he mentioned an appreciation several times.
"We followers of Spinoza see our God in the wonderful order and lawfulness of all that exists and in its soul ["Beseeltheit"] as it reveals itself in man and animal," in a letter to Eduard Büsching (25 October 1929)
I know damo said it before, but Einstein did not believe in a personal God. He was quite explicit on that. IP, you don't seem to understand what that means, but it means he did not believe in a God who can be related to as a person. Instead he sees God as an impersonal force like gravity. So it would not make any sense for him to believe in a personal creator or intelligent designer.
Ishmael Pequod
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Tell us what this "Intelligence" is that he mentions, which is superior to man.
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Ishmael Pequod
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I never said that, so take down your straw man. I said Einstein believed in Intelligent Design. Deal with reality.
I already have told you. It is everything, including man.
Again, he seems to have ascribed to the pantheism of Spinoza and believed that God is all things and all things are God.
Do you have something to move this along or are you just going to spin in place in blissful ignorance?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That's absurd. It is the age old grould rule of science that you cannot invoke supernatural causation. Whether God is "known" or "unknown" regardless God is of the supernatural. Gould was correct when he observed that science and religion are non-overlapping magisteria (NOMA).
Ishmael Pequod
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No, he didn't say that it was everything including man, you did. He also said the "intelligence" was superior to man. Try again. Who or what is this "Intelligence"?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That's a pretty harsh thing to say about Mylie. I personally think she's a very talented 20 year old that just happens to be feeling her oats. She's got an awesome Godmother in Dolly P. She'll keep her on the right track.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
G'Lord! You must love peptic ulcers too!
Though I have to admit that SF does have his good points. My favorite SF moment was when he told Darla to go make him a sandwhich. I painted my monitor and half the wall with coffee. I wouldn't dare say that to Darla in my most mysogenistic delusion of grandeur.
He's also probably the best JPP poster, currently, in the fine art of the rant. Though he's a far cry from being the master that Dixie was.
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It does not appear that he believed in Intelligent Design and you don't have the first bit of proof that he did. The fact that he used intelligence in a sentence certainly does not settle it. Deal with reality.
Intelligent design supposes a personal God or designer. If it's just some impersonal force or natural law then their attacks on the notion that an impersonal force or natural law like evolution guided by natural selection sufficiently explains the complexity/diversity of life is absolutely circular.
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