Liberal Democrat Jesse Jackson: "Obama Acting Like He's White"

[Cancel7]

That's interesting, but not an uncommon take .. even form "liberals" .. not meaning to accuse you of liberalism.

It's good that people like Jackson and Sharpton speak out against racism and speak up for non-white people .. I mean who's going to do it ... you?

As far as the "mob" against the Duke players, my position was to wait until the evidence came out even though I fully recognize that blacks don't get that option.

I bet you're one that wants OJ hanged .. but Phil Spector getting away with murder .. blatant "I think I killed her" murder doesn't really rankle your ire. Probably didn't pay too much attention to that one.

There is a dynamic that is fully formed in this country that seperates black/white perspectives that I believe will always exist. Racism is too embedded in America for it to ever go away. The best we can hope for is some modicum of peaceful co-exstence .. but never a fully formed union.

If one uses the "crime" statistics, you can make all manner of assertions about blacks and crime .. but as I've said before, 72% of all illegal drug users and the vast majority of sellers, importers, distributers, and makers of illegal drugs in America are whites. Does that show up in your statistics?

Of course, the overwhelming number of people put in jail for illegal drugs in a nation that incarcerates more of its population than any nation in the history of Humankind, are black.

Of course the disparity in sentencing and arrests for criminal behavior is absolutely known, documented, and proven beyond all reasonable doubt .. but what do you care? .. You're not black and there is no reason for you to be concerned or even slightly care .. so I'm not asking you to.

If you've reviewed the Jena 6 case and found nothing wrong or out of the way, that's only to be expected. I bet you watched the Rodney King beating and couldn't figure out what all the rancor was about.

Like all things, there is a reckoning for evil, and America inches ever close to its own.

This is an incredible post, I hope people read it slowly and try to get it through their heads. By people, I do not mean Dano of course. Not that he's not a person, but, he's hopeless.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No, that would be you .. like 1/8th black.

Obama had black and white parents .. which makes him genetically more black than white.

I'm 1/16th black.

Obama, I thought, was part Asian too?

Holy fuck I'm thinking of Tiger Woods.

I guess I was confused by the fact that he grew up in Hawaii.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Phil Specter? He's kind of crazy. Though that wouldn't, really, necessarily get him the "insanity" defense. The details of his arrest are kind of fuzzy. Something that happened in the 80's. No one's really paid much attention to it because not many people give a fuck about Phil Specter... his career died 20 years ago.

OJ killed those people. It's even been proven, at least, in civil court. He'd be in prison or right now if the prosecuting attorneys hadn't been so terrible.

 

[ib1yysguy]

What's the last thread Dano created that didn't begin with "Liberal Democrat"?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

LOL. I was about to say that.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I don't get it, Dano. He's not a Liberal Democrat. That's not even a US party. He's just a plain 'ole Democrat.

 

[TheDanold]

That's interesting, but not an uncommon take .. even form "liberals" .. not meaning to accuse you of liberalism.

Oh ok then, no offense taken.

It's good that people like Jackson and Sharpton speak out against racism and speak up for non-white people .. I mean who's going to do it ... you?

And who speaks up for the many more whites that are victims of crimes by blacks...you?
I would say white on black crime like that poor lady in West Virginia or the dragging incident in Texas gets national media attention...but black on white crime (which happens much more)? Well that just shows up in stats.
Seriously I don't know why the fuck you whine, you motherfucker, blacks once endured insidious racism but you don't even realize how much things have changed - your view of racism is forever stuck in history.

As far as the "mob" against the Duke players, my position was to wait until the evidence came out even though I fully recognize that blacks don't get that option.

Good for you.

I bet you're one that wants OJ hanged .. but Phil Spector getting away with murder .. blatant "I think I killed her" murder doesn't really rankle your ire. Probably didn't pay too much attention to that one.

Anyone who is guilty of murder I want to see have the death penalty, regardless of race.

There is a dynamic that is fully formed in this country that seperates black/white perspectives that I believe will always exist. Racism is too embedded in America for it to ever go away. The best we can hope for is some modicum of peaceful co-exstence .. but never a fully formed union.

Well I would argue that policies like affirmative action that favor blacks only serve to keep the issue of race front and center and very divisive. I favor equality in law, do you?

If one uses the "crime" statistics, you can make all manner of assertions about blacks and crime .. but as I've said before, 72% of all illegal drug users and the vast majority of sellers, importers, distributers, and makers of illegal drugs in America are whites. Does that show up in your statistics?
Of course, the overwhelming number of people put in jail for illegal drugs in a nation that incarcerates more of its population than any nation in the history of Humankind, are black.
Of course the disparity in sentencing and arrests for criminal behavior is absolutely known, documented, and proven beyond all reasonable doubt .. but what do you care? .. You're not black and there is no reason for you to be concerned or even slightly care .. so I'm not asking you to.

I do care but did ever occur to you that part of that reason is that whites drug of choice is overwhelmingly marijuana (something Liberals like yourself have worked tirelessly to be less vigilant against in law), while blacks use a lot more crack (something Liberals never bothered to water down in law). Personally I don't favor the drug war, I favor ending it along with ending healthcare for drug users and ending gov paid treatment programs. Give people freedom and let them shoulder the responsibility for their own actions.

But Liberals like yourself talk a gang of shit about ending the drug war, but the only thing I've seen from you is advocating expanding it into the much bigger realm of tobacco, yeah remember that thread? So next time you feel like you need to make lecture, try and think a little, ok kiddo?

If you've reviewed the Jena 6 case and found nothing wrong or out of the way, that's only to be expected. I bet you watched the Rodney King beating and couldn't figure out what all the rancor was about.

No but I did take the time to read the actual report about how Rodney King resisted arrest, of course stupid Liberals and race baiters never bothered to try and see or read about THAT part of the incident.

I did review the Jena case, I found nothing in the link you posted to indicate they did not intend to kill this kid. Emotions run out of control with mobs and that can happen, it's not ALWAYS automatically assault, it can be more. Did you ever review the Wichita case?

Like all things, there is a reckoning for evil, and America inches ever close to its own.

You really hate America don't you? Why not get it all out buddy? Seriously go rant crazy.


Also I would ask you, did it ever occur to you that the a big reason more blacks percentagewise are in prison than whites and more whites percentagewise are in prison than asians is simply nothing more than they commit more crimes?
Do you really think some racist fucks like skinheads that pout about asians taking their jobs are going to sit on a jury and let them go because they love them more?
Like I said bro, livin in the past.

 

[TheDanold]

I don't get it, Dano. He's not a Liberal Democrat. That's not even a US party. He's just a plain 'ole Democrat.

The reason I say Liberal Democrat is because not all Democrats are Liberals, which some Dems have scolded me on years ago. So I try and be fair and use the term Liberal Democrat on Democrats who are Liberal - which yes does include Jesse Jackson. It pretty much includes most of the Dems nowadays, whose voting records are very Liberal.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

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If one uses the "crime" statistics, you can make all manner of assertions about blacks and crime .. but as I've said before, 72% of all illegal drug users and the vast majority of sellers, importers, distributers, and makers of illegal drugs in America are whites. Does that show up in your statistics?

Of course, the overwhelming number of people put in jail for illegal drugs in a nation that incarcerates more of its population than any nation in the history of Humankind, are black.

Of course the disparity in sentencing and arrests for criminal behavior is absolutely known, documented, and proven beyond all reasonable doubt .. but what do you care? .. You're not black and there is no reason for you to be concerned or even slightly care .. so I'm not asking you to.

If you've reviewed the Jena 6 case and found nothing wrong or out of the way, that's only to be expected. I bet you watched the Rodney King beating and couldn't figure out what all the rancor was about.

Like all things, there is a reckoning for evil, and America inches ever close to its own.

Well said. My stepson is a cop and we have this argument often. He keeps saying that most of the people they bust for drug trafficking are blacks, to which I replay "Yeah, that's my point." It gets worse when you look at the prosecution statistics: charges are filed against a far higher proportion of African-American arrestees. It becomes worse still when looking at conviction statistics: African-American defendants are far more likely to be convicted.

Cons are predictably eager to accuse liberals of playing the quote race card unquote. It's like red meat to the wolverine: the slobber and rancid breath fly fast and far. The fact is, though, that "racism" -- discrimination against certain ethnic groups -- is deeply entrenched in our legal, political and economic systems. It isn't going to go away until we admit to ourselves that it's there, just to begin with. After that, we also have to decide that we really want to fix the problem, and that may prove the tougher challenge.

 

[TheDanold]

Well said. My stepson is a cop and we have this argument often. He keeps saying that most of the people they bust for drug trafficking are blacks, to which I replay "Yeah, that's my point." It gets worse when you look at the prosecution statistics: charges are filed against a far higher proportion of African-American arrestees. It becomes worse still when looking at conviction statistics: African-American defendants are far more likely to be convicted.

Cons are predictably eager to accuse liberals of playing the quote race card unquote. It's like red meat to the wolverine: the slobber and rancid breath fly fast and far. The fact is, though, that "racism" -- discrimination against certain ethnic groups -- is deeply entrenched in our legal, political and economic systems. It isn't going to go away until we admit to ourselves that it's there, just to begin with. After that, we also have to decide that we really want to fix the problem, and that may prove the tougher challenge.

No it's not well said, I completely debunked his post with several points. The biggest of which was that Liberals say they want to abolish the drug war, but in reality they argue for expanding it into the realm of tobacco smoking, INCLUDING blackassdolt who was a huge proponent for that in the thread RStringfield started about the Liberal capital outlawing smoking tobacco in apartments.

I've seen plenty of skinheads and racists call asians "gooks" and express racial hate towards them, why is it that asians make up a much smaller percentage (PER CAPITA) of inmates and convictions than do whites?
Could it be maybe that they are just committing fewer crimes?

 

[ib1yysguy]

Dano, why don't you go ahead and tell us why you think black people commit more crimes statistically.

 

[TheDanold]

Dano, why don't you go ahead and tell us why you think black people commit more crimes statistically.

Well given that the crime rate for blacks before the 1960's was actually much lower, I am not going to play to your stupid racebaiting, by you thinking I believe it is genes.
I would say that given examining inner cities where crime is worse such as Detroit for example, is where a higher proportion of blacks live, but the whites there are also more criminal. So it is the environment there that seems to foster it.
These are areas devoid of any Conservative Republicans for decades, with solely Liberal Democrats in power and their policies of high taxes, high regulation, soft on crime and big social welfare spending, end up resulting in an environment that has more hopelessness with less jobs, as job-creating employers don't wish to be there, but also people are sent a message that it is the states job to take care of them and that they are never done enough for, that they are entitled and defended doing criminal activity because of their situation or blaming society.
Blacks just happen to live more heavily in those environments, I've met blacks in the country and despite poverty and probably facing more racism they are not criminal.

 

[blackascoal]

If one was white and another black that does not make him genetically more of one than the other.

Oh really .. You are genetically African and if you have a child with a black woman, would that child not have more African genes given that both parents are genetically African?

Have you ever seen children of mixed parentage? There are lots of 'em to look at. Do they look more white than black? Does Obama look like a white guy? Does Prince? Is Halle Berry a white actress or is she a black one?

It's not rocket science.

 

[Damocles]

Oh really .. You are genetically African and if you have a child with a black woman, would that child not have more African genes given that both parents are genetically African?

Have you ever seen children of mixed parentage? There are lots of 'em to look at. Do they look more white than black? Does Obama look like a white guy? Does Prince? Is Halle Berry a white actress or is she a black one?

It's not rocket science.

I am genetically african? You are making no sense here. If one is white and has a child with a black person the child is not genetically more of one ethnicity than the other.

No matter how you try to play it, "They look this way so they are 'more'"...

Appearance is not genes. If one is half of something they are not genetically 'more' than whatever their other half is simply becuase of pigmentation.

I don't want to get into another of the 1/3 type arguments but half means that it is exactly equal to the other half.

 

[blackascoal]

Oh ok then, no offense taken.


And who speaks up for the many more whites that are victims of crimes by blacks...you?
I would say white on black crime like that poor lady in West Virginia or the dragging incident in Texas gets national media attention...but black on white crime (which happens much more)? Well that just shows up in stats.
Seriously I don't know why the fuck you whine, you motherfucker, blacks once endured insidious racism but you don't even realize how much things have changed - your view of racism is forever stuck in history.


Good for you.


Anyone who is guilty of murder I want to see have the death penalty, regardless of race.


Well I would argue that policies like affirmative action that favor blacks only serve to keep the issue of race front and center and very divisive. I favor equality in law, do you?


I do care but did ever occur to you that part of that reason is that whites drug of choice is overwhelmingly marijuana (something Liberals like yourself have worked tirelessly to be less vigilant against in law), while blacks use a lot more crack (something Liberals never bothered to water down in law). Personally I don't favor the drug war, I favor ending it along with ending healthcare for drug users and ending gov paid treatment programs. Give people freedom and let them shoulder the responsibility for their own actions.

But Liberals like yourself talk a gang of shit about ending the drug war, but the only thing I've seen from you is advocating expanding it into the much bigger realm of tobacco, yeah remember that thread? So next time you feel like you need to make lecture, try and think a little, ok kiddo?


No but I did take the time to read the actual report about how Rodney King resisted arrest, of course stupid Liberals and race baiters never bothered to try and see or read about THAT part of the incident.

I did review the Jena case, I found nothing in the link you posted to indicate they did not intend to kill this kid. Emotions run out of control with mobs and that can happen, it's not ALWAYS automatically assault, it can be more. Did you ever review the Wichita case?


You really hate America don't you? Why not get it all out buddy? Seriously go rant crazy.


Also I would ask you, did it ever occur to you that the a big reason more blacks percentagewise are in prison than whites and more whites percentagewise are in prison than asians is simply nothing more than they commit more crimes?
Do you really think some racist fucks like skinheads that pout about asians taking their jobs are going to sit on a jury and let them go because they love them more?
Like I said bro, livin in the past.

Even though you and I exist on opposite sides of the political spectrum, I thought we at least had an ability to communicate our perspectives civily.

Given that you now find it necessary to engage in really silly immature changing of my screenname, something that reasonable adults to get into to, I guess I was wrong.

I didn't take/waste time to read your post, so of course, I have no response.

 

[blackascoal]

I am genetically african? You are making no sense here. If one is white and has a child with a black person the child is not genetically more of one ethnicity than the other.

No matter how you try to play it, "They look this way so they are 'more'"...

Appearance is not genes. If one is half of something they are not genetically 'more' than whatever their other half is simply becuase of pigmentation.

I don't want to get into another of the 1/3 type arguments but half means that it is exactly equal to the other half.

I'm not here to teach genetics .. and perhaps you descended from Vikings, not Africans .. or maybe you came from the biblical "dust." Either way, I have no problem with your opinion.

 

[Damocles]

Biblical "dust"? Wouldn't the Africans have come from that same dust?

I have no belief in that direction.

 

[TheDanold]

Even though you and I exist on opposite sides of the political spectrum, I thought we at least had an ability to communicate our perspectives civily.

Given that you now find it necessary to engage in really silly immature changing of my screenname, something that reasonable adults to get into to, I guess I was wrong.

I didn't take/waste time to read your post, so of course, I have no response.

You insinuated I was a racist for not caring so don't think I won't respond hard to that. And of course you read my post because otherwise you wouldn't have seen the pieces that upset you.
I thought I made some great points, see if you can address them.

 

[blackascoal]

You insinuated I was a racist for not caring so don't think I won't respond hard to that. And of course you read my post because otherwise you wouldn't have seen the pieces that upset you.
I thought I made some great points, see if you can address them.

I didn't insinuate anything other than you don't appear to be intrested in black issues .. that doesn't make you a racist. It makes you an American.

And sorry, I didn't read your post or anything past your silly name game. I've never done that to you .. although I could .. but there's intelligence in the adage of "When I became a man, I put away childish things."

If you want to communicate, do so as a man.

 

[Cancel7]

You insinuated I was a racist for not caring so don't think I won't respond hard to that. And of course you read my post because otherwise you wouldn't have seen the pieces that upset you.
I thought I made some great points, see if you can address them.

So you responded by calling him "Blackassdolt".

Well, you certainly put rest to that rumor Dano.