yes! thank you very much.. i need to update
Libya News and Interests
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Long story. It goes back to 2011 when me and BAC
( who may be deceased - but a member here) got hip to the fact the No Fly zone imposed by the UN was being used as an excuse to regime change Qadaffi- thanks to Hillary/Rice.
I became interested in the people and the ongoing civil war -11 years still going on
Libya is pumping light crude, but many fields are in disrepair due to the civil war. Their national oil company is marvelous -even shares the revenues with both sides
Dont forget the Brits and the French, this disaster was a team effort
but not the Russians -they stayed out.
US however led in sorties, tonnage, command and control
and Hillary was the driving force behind making Qadaffi a "military target" -
why his convoy was droned outside Sirte
Extrajudicial killings on the rise in Libya, human rights body says
https://en.218tv.net/2022/06/02/extrajudicial-killings-on-the-rise-in-libya-human-rights-body-says/
The Head of the National Commission for Human Rights in Libya (NCHRL), Ahmed Abdel Hakim, said that during the past five months, Libya had witnessed dozens of killings, adding that 172 cases of extrajudicial killings were committed across the country between January and May 2022.
Abdel Hakim added, in statements reported by Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper, that these numbers are a dangerous indication of the high rate of extrajudicial killings, the growing phenomenon of impunity, and the absence of the role of law enforcement authorities, calling on the security apparatuses to play their role in protecting the lives and properties of citizens.
Libyan cities have witnessed a wave of escalating assassinations recently, most of which were concentrated in Misurata, which raises security fears of a resurgence of internal fighting in a number of regions.
https://en.218tv.net/2022/06/02/extrajudicial-killings-on-the-rise-in-libya-human-rights-body-says/
The Head of the National Commission for Human Rights in Libya (NCHRL), Ahmed Abdel Hakim, said that during the past five months, Libya had witnessed dozens of killings, adding that 172 cases of extrajudicial killings were committed across the country between January and May 2022.
Abdel Hakim added, in statements reported by Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper, that these numbers are a dangerous indication of the high rate of extrajudicial killings, the growing phenomenon of impunity, and the absence of the role of law enforcement authorities, calling on the security apparatuses to play their role in protecting the lives and properties of citizens.
Libyan cities have witnessed a wave of escalating assassinations recently, most of which were concentrated in Misurata, which raises security fears of a resurgence of internal fighting in a number of regions.
What we did in Libya, a combination of not telling the Russians what we were doing and straight up lying about what we intended to do, is one of the top bullet points in the Empires argument that there is no choice but to not allow Western global power to continue.
We are morally inferior the argument goes.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Under the control of the Tobruk-led Government and Libyan National Army
Under the control of the Government of National Accord and Allies
Under the control of the National Salvation Government
Controlled by the Mujahedeen Councils of Derna, Benghazi and Adjabiya
Control By Local Forces
Controlled by Tuareg forces
Military situation in Libya on 10 December 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2014–present)
Prior to this, a Gaddafi autocracy that was overthrown with the help of the US govt via 5 administrations.
So, what's your point?
what are you trying to say? Qadaffi was a member in good standing at the UN in 2011 when we took the No Fly zone (UN Resolution 1973) and morphed it into regime change
Condi Rice visited Libya - 2008
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-usa/rice-meets-gaddafi-on-libya-visit-idUSN0438196320080906
Second Libyan Civil War 2014 to 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Libyan_Civil_War
This article is about the civil war that lasted from 2014 to 2020.
For the 8-month civil war in 2011, see
First Libyan Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Libyan_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Libyan_Civil_War
This article is about the civil war that lasted from 2014 to 2020.
For the 8-month civil war in 2011, see
First Libyan Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Libyan_Civil_War
Hillary's Emails give a good look
From: Mills, Cheryl D [mailto:MiIIsCD@state.gov]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:37 PM
To: H
Subject: FW: tick tock on libya
From: Jake Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuland, Victoria
Subject: tick tock on libya
this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes.
it shows S' (Clinton)
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish.
l. toria, who else might be able to add to this?
Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya
HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.
February 25 — HRC announces the suspension of operations of the Libyan embassy in Washington.
February 26 — HRC directs efforts to evacuate all U.S. embassy personnel from Tripoli and orders the closing of
the embassy.
February 26 -- HRC made a series of calls to her counterparts to help secure passage of UNSC 1970, which
imposes sanctions on Gaddafi and his family and refers Qadhafi and his cronies to the ICC
February 28 — HRC travels to Geneva, Switzerland for consultations with European partners on Libya. She
gives a major address in which she says: "Colonel Qadhafi and those around him must be held accountable for these acts, which violate international legal obligations and common decency.
Through their actions, they have lost the legitimacy to govern. And the people of Libya have made themselves clear: It is time for Qadhafi to go— now, without further violence or delay."
She also works to secure the suspension of Libya from membership in the Human Rights Council.
Early March — HRC appoints Special Envoy Chris Stevens to be the U.S. representative to Benghazi
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05788648 Date: 10/30/2015
March 14 — HRC travels to Paris for the G8 foreign minister's meeting. She meets with TNC representative Jibril and consults with her colleagues on further UN Security Council action.
She notes that a no-fly zone will not be adequate.
March 14-16 — HRC participates in a series of high-level video- and teleconferences with She is a leading voice for strong UNSC action and a NATO civilian protection mission.
March 17 — HRC secures Russian abstention and Portuguese and African support for UNSC 1973, ensuring that it passes. 1973 authorizes a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" -
code for military action - to protect civilians against Gaddafi's army.
March 24 — HRC engages with allies and secures the transition of command and control of the civilian
protection mission to NATO. She announces the transition in a statement.
March 18-30— HRC engages with UAE, Qatar, and Jordan to seek their participation in coalition
operations. Over the course of several days, all three devote aircraft to the mission.
March 19 — HRC travels to Paris to meet with European and Arab leaders to prepare for military action to
protect civilians. That night, the first U.S. air strikes halt the advance of Gaddafi's forces on Benghazi and
target Libya's air defenses:
March 29 — HRC travels to London for a conference on Libya, where she is a driving force behind the creation of a Contact Group comprising 20-plus countries to coordinate efforts to protect civilians and plan for a post- Qadhafi Libya.
She is instrumental in setting up a rotating chair system to ensure regional buy-in.
April 14 — HRC travels to Berlin for NATO meetings. She is the driving force behind NATO adopting a
communiqué that calls for Qadhafi's departure as a political objective, and lays out three clear military
objectives: end of attacks and threat of attacks on civilians; the removal of Qadhafi forces from cities they forcibly entered; and the unfettered provision of humanitarian access.
May 5 — HRC travels to Rome for a Contact Group meeting. The Contact Group establishes a coordination
system and a temporary financial mechanism to funnel money to the TNC.
June 8 — HRC travels to Abu Dhabi for another Contact Group meeting and holds a series of intense discussions with rebel leaders.
June 12 — HRC travels to Addis for consultations and a speech before the African Union, pressing the case for a democratic transition in Libya.
July 15 — HRC travels to Istanbul and announces that the U.S. recognizes the TNC as the legitimate governmentof Libya. She also secures recognition from the other members of the Contact Group.
Late June — HRC meets with House Democrats and Senate Republicans to persuade them not to de-fund the Libya operation.
July 16 — HRC sends Feltman, Cretz, and Chollet to Tunis to meet with Qadhafi envoys "to deliver a clear andfirm message that the only way to move forward, is for Qadhafi to step down".
Early August — HRC works to construct a $1.5 billion assets package to be approved by the Security Council and sent to the TNC. That package is working through its last hurdles.
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05788648 Date: 10/30/2015
Early August -- After military chief Abdel Fattah Younes is killed, S sends a personal message to TNC head
Jalil to press for a responsible investigation and a careful and inclusive approach to creating a new executive council.
Early August -- HRC secures written pledges from the TNC to an inclusive, pluralistic democratic transition. She continues to consult with European and Arab colleagues on the evolving situation.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
They killed Ghadaffi over him moving The African Union to the gold Standard.
He had the gold to do it; He was doing the best for his people.
Hillary assassinated him for her global banker bosses. Now Libya is plunged into chaos with 100s of thousands of people dying.
That's an evil bitch.
He had the gold to do it; He was doing the best for his people.
Hillary assassinated him for her global banker bosses. Now Libya is plunged into chaos with 100s of thousands of people dying.
That's an evil bitch.
I think I learned a long time ago that it was the French and the Brits who most drove this, Europe was going to save the world, it was time for EU glory. In spite of the fact that it was America who had to do most of the work.
Is that wrong?
correct. Germany was out, Russia was out.
France was a the big mover of the UN Resolution for the no fly zone.
HRC (Hillary) and Susan Rice ( Rice, Nuland and Sullivan are in Bidens government)
spread the lie of "Viagra rape" ( Qadaffi troops) to gin up support to remove Qadaffi
You can se the WIKILEAKS Email that details how she went about it.
Hillary was also the one behind designating Qadaffi a "military target"
I supported her in '08 (notmy best move)
by 2012 I wanted her locked up..lol and i voted against Obama ( went 3rd party)
2016 Trump comes along and hits all the right notes (China etc) and the Dems get hijacked by the Progs
Yes she is a horrid woman -the driving force behind the Steele dossier and the Russian Hoax to take out Trump
there is something to that..just how much i dont know