London Apartment Tower ENGULFED in flames for a day but NO COLLAPSE!!!

Text Drivers are Killers said:
Fires? Fires don't cause buildings to undergo unitary collapse at near free fall speed. If they did, Grenfell Tower would have collapsed since it had far far worse fires than WTC towers 1,2, or 7. Grenfell was absolutely gutted by the fires but it's still there.

You are a paid govt shill sent here to spread lies about 9-11. Everybody can see it, you fool.
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Grenfell Towers was constructed from poured reinforced concrete beams and columns.

"According to reports, the key structural components of Grenfell Tower are mostly made of concrete – a material which rates highly in terms of fire resistance. While other materials can buckle in high temperatures, concrete structures can help to prevent the collapse of a building in case of fire, as well as making it safer to use helicopters – which can dump up to 9,842 litres of water at a time – to extinguish the blaze."

http://theconversation.com/grenfell-tower-disaster-how-did-the-fire-spread-so-quickly-79445

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Milagro said:
Good grief, this board has truly more than its fair share of loonys and weirdos. How can anyone explain a Black Panther and a racist bigot joining forces?

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Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I actually disagree. I've found that the internet and therefore the world are full of weirdos and loonies. That's why I no longer believe in democracy. The "philosophers" should indeed rule.
Democracy should be a tool of the elite to select who among them fill high offices. The people should no more govern than they should do brain surgery, design rockets and bridges or practice law. Government should take the metaphorical form
of a stately hacienda or fortress/castle outside of which we care for the peasants and other domestic fauna, letting them in only in case of siege. The inner area should be reserved for those with advanced degrees and the merchant classes, the towers with
soldiers and an inner sanctum reserved for leaders, wives and concubines. :)
 
Micawber said:
Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I actually disagree. I've found that the internet and therefore the world are full of weirdos and loonies. That's why I no longer believe in democracy. The "philosophers" should indeed rule.
Democracy should be a tool of the elite to select who among them fill high offices. The people should no more govern than they should do brain surgery, design rockets and bridges or practice law. Government should take the metaphorical form
of a stately hacienda or fortress/castle outside of which we care for the peasants and other domestic fauna, letting them in only in case of siege. The inner area should be reserved for those with advanced degrees and the merchant classes, the towers with
soldiers and an inner sanctum reserved for leaders, wives and concubines. :)
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Naturally you would count yourself as one of the oligarchs lording over the plebs.

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Text Drivers are Killers said:
Fires? Fires don't cause buildings to undergo unitary collapse at near free fall speed. If they did, Grenfell Tower would have collapsed since it had far far worse fires than WTC towers 1,2, or 7. Grenfell was absolutely gutted by the fires but it's still there.

You are a paid govt shill sent here to spread lies about 9-11. Everybody can see it, you fool.
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Grenfell was completely different construction.
 
Micawber said:
Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I actually disagree. I've found that the internet and therefore the world are full of weirdos and loonies. That's why I no longer believe in democracy. The "philosophers" should indeed rule.
Democracy should be a tool of the elite to select who among them fill high offices. The people should no more govern than they should do brain surgery, design rockets and bridges or practice law. Government should take the metaphorical form
of a stately hacienda or fortress/castle outside of which we care for the peasants and other domestic fauna, letting them in only in case of siege. The inner area should be reserved for those with advanced degrees and the merchant classes, the towers with
soldiers and an inner sanctum reserved for leaders, wives and concubines. :)
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The people do brain surgery, design rockets, build bridges, and practice law now.

Unless you think they aren't people.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
HAHAHA. More namecalling. But then that's all you govt shills have.
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How can anyone explain a Black Panther and a racist bigot joining forces?

I don't read his posts, but I can explain it.

A. I'm not a Black Panther .. there were only 6 .. but he wouldn't know that.

B. It demonstrates agreement on the ISSUE, not race, politics, nor ideology.

As I said earlier, this issue crosses all societal boundaries. There are truth-seekers of ALL political, professional, military, technical, expert, academic, scientific, patriotic, religious, and every other walk of life .. and if anyone disputes that I'll be happy to demonstrate.

Yet, swallowers want to treat this like it's only a few people on the internet. They don't believe that questions they can't answer should even be asked, and discussions like this should never take place, and the only evidence acceptable should be what you're told to believe. That's their evidence .. what you're told to believe. Democrats, progressives, and liberals who believe you should only believe what you're told. Republicans, don't say shit .. your orange prince doesn't believe this bullshit.

There is furniture in just about every building that has ever caught on fire .. but NONE have EVER collapsed in the manner as on that one day. HOW IS THAT .. but that's a question that should never be asked according to people who have no sane answer to that.

Truth is .. many don't have the courage to speak truth. 'What if my employer or the government is reading this?' :whoa:

I refuse to believe that some of the swallowers here, whom I admire outside of this thread, are actually dumb enough to believe the bullshit of 9/11. :0) It's simply stupid beyond belief.
 
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blackascoal said:
How can anyone explain a Black Panther and a racist bigot joining forces?

I don't read his posts, but I can explain it.

A. I'm not a Black Panther .. there were only 6 .. but he wouldn't know that.

B. It demonstrates agreement on the ISSUE, not race, politics, nor ideology.

As I said earlier, this issue crosses all societal boundaries. There are truth-seekers of ALL political, professional, military, technical, expert, academic, scientific, patriotic, religious, and every other walk of life .. and if anyone disputes that I'll be happy to demonstrate.

Yet, swallowers want to treat this like it's only a few people on the internet. They don't believe that even questions they can't answer should never be asked, and discussions like this should never take place and the only evidence acceptable should be what you're told to believe. That's their evidence .. what you're told to believe. Democrats, progressives, and liberals who believe you should only believe what you're told. Republicans, don't say shit .. your orange prince doesn't believe this bullshit.

There is furniture in just about every building that has ever caught on fire .. but NONE have EVER collapsed in the manner as on that one day. HOW IS THAT .. but that's a question that should never be asked according to people who have no sane answer to that.

Truth is .. many don't have to courage to speak truth. 'What if my employer or the government is reading this?' :whoa:

I refuse to believe that some of the swallowers here, whom I admire outside of this thread, are actually dumb enough to believe the bullshit of 9/11. :0) It's simply stupid beyond belief.
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There are no societal boundaries other than the ones you yourself erect.
 
GazzaQueen said:
There are no societal boundaries other than the ones you yourself erect.
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It is just amazing how these people firmly believe that they have seen the light and everybody else is hopelessly deluded. Classic conspiracy theory, won't be long before the Illuminati, Freemasons, Bilderberg Group, Skull and Bones gets a look in.

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Milagro said:
It is just amazing how these people firmly believe that they have seen the light and everybody else is hopelessly deluded. Classic conspiracy theory, won't be long before the Illuminati, Freemasons, Bilderberg Group, Skull and Bones gets a look in.

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Their problem isn't their paranoid conspiracies as much as it is finding a replacement that doesn't involve thousands of people over the course of decades to pull it off.
 
blackascoal said:
How can anyone explain a Black Panther and a racist bigot joining forces?

I don't read his posts, but I can explain it.

A. I'm not a Black Panther .. there were only 6 .. but he wouldn't know that.

B. It demonstrates agreement on the ISSUE, not race, politics, nor ideology.

As I said earlier, this issue crosses all societal boundaries. There are truth-seekers of ALL political, professional, military, technical, expert, academic, scientific, patriotic, religious, and every other walk of life .. and if anyone disputes that I'll be happy to demonstrate.

Yet, swallowers want to treat this like it's only a few people on the internet. They don't believe that questions they can't answer should even be asked, and discussions like this should never take place, and the only evidence acceptable should be what you're told to believe. That's their evidence .. what you're told to believe. Democrats, progressives, and liberals who believe you should only believe what you're told. Republicans, don't say shit .. your orange prince doesn't believe this bullshit.

There is furniture in just about every building that has ever caught on fire .. but NONE have EVER collapsed in the manner as on that one day. HOW IS THAT .. but that's a question that should never be asked according to people who have no sane answer to that.

Truth is .. many don't have the courage to speak truth. 'What if my employer or the government is reading this?' :whoa:

I refuse to believe that some of the swallowers here, whom I admire outside of this thread, are actually dumb enough to believe the bullshit of 9/11. :0) It's simply stupid beyond belief.
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You do read my posts but can't respond because I'm more than able to counter all your bullshit.

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GazzaQueen said:
The people do brain surgery, design rockets, build bridges, and practice law now.

Unless you think they aren't people.
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There are two broad classes of homosapien morphing as we speak, statuesque god-children able to plan and execute, on the one hand, and squat hairy illmannered hobgoblin sorts of creatures suited for menial labor and repetitive dreary toil under constant supervision due to their genetic moral turpitude, on the other.

For taxonomical purposes geneticist call them Democrats and Republicans, respectively.
 
Micawber said:
There are two broad classes of homosapian morphing as we speak, statuesque god-children able to plan and execute, on the one hand, and squat hairy illmannered hobgoblin sorts of creatures suited for menial labor and repetitive dreary toil under constant supervision due to their genetic moral turpitude, on the other.

For taxonomical purposes geneticist call them Democrats and Republicans, respectively.
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Apparently your imagined intellectual prowess stops short of being able to spell Homo Sapiens correctly.

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Micawber said:
There are two broad classes of homosapien morphing as we speak, statuesque god-children able to plan and execute, on the one hand, and squat hairy illmannered hobgoblin sorts of creatures suited for menial labor and repetitive dreary toil under constant supervision due to their genetic moral turpitude, on the other.

For taxonomical purposes geneticist call them Democrats and Republicans, respectively.
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So why are Democratic women politicians so plug ugly?

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