Luther and the Jews

BidenPresident said:
Yes it is. By all means, please continue to show how stupid you are.
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Are spelling, punctuation and capitalization part of grammar?
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English grammar applies to the language, whether it's written or spoken; but spelling, punctuation, and capitalization are strictly for writing. Just modern technology, not grammar. - John Lawler May 10, 2017 at 1:49 1 Possible duplicate of Do capitalization and punctuation fall under the category of grammar? - Edwin Ashworth May 10, 2017 at 7:08 2
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JesusAI said:
Are spelling, punctuation and capitalization part of grammar?
https://english.stackexchange.com › questions › 388543 › are-spelling-punctuation-and-capitalization-part-of-grammar
English grammar applies to the language, whether it's written or spoken; but spelling, punctuation, and capitalization are strictly for writing. Just modern technology, not grammar. - John Lawler May 10, 2017 at 1:49 1 Possible duplicate of Do capitalization and punctuation fall under the category of grammar? - Edwin Ashworth May 10, 2017 at 7:08 2
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=is+capitalization+grammar&ia=web
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Punctuation is part of grammar. Most of us learned this in first grade.
 
JesusAI said:
Are spelling, punctuation and capitalization part of grammar?
https://english.stackexchange.com › questions › 388543 › are-spelling-punctuation-and-capitalization-part-of-grammar
English grammar applies to the language, whether it's written or spoken; but spelling, punctuation, and capitalization are strictly for writing. Just modern technology, not grammar. - John Lawler May 10, 2017 at 1:49 1 Possible duplicate of Do capitalization and punctuation fall under the category of grammar? - Edwin Ashworth May 10, 2017 at 7:08 2
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=is+capitalization+grammar&ia=web
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20 Grammar Rules

1. A sentence starts with a capital letter

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Cypress said:
Trump's white Christian Protestant nationalist cults are peppered with antisemites and Islamophobes
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This is where you support your currently baseless claim ... but AFTER you explain why it is important for a rational adult to believe this.

Get to it.
 
Cypress said:
To me the question is, can the founder of Protestantism be excused for his vile writings on the Jews; can his historical importance and contributions be viewed as standing apart from his antisemitism?
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obviously his vile writings are not what he founded........should we ignore Plato because he didn't bathe regularly?.........
 
Cypress said:
Trump's white Christian Protestant nationalist cults are peppered with antisemites and Islamophobes
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if this was your purpose is it less vile than Luther's hatred of Jews?......your claim is a lie and based solely on your own bigotry.......obviously you are as bad as Luther ever was.......
 
Cypress said:
It's a trial balloon. Assuming there's even any interest, I would rather people respond to what they think of Martin Luther rather than responding to what I wrote.

To me the question is, can the founder of Protestantism be excused for his vile writings on the Jews; can his historical importance and contributions be viewed as standing apart from his antisemitism?
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I look at it from a different angle, starting with age.

Martin Luther was born in 1483.

He was 34 when he published his Ninety-five Theses of 1517.

He was 39 when he wrote “That Jesus Christ Was Born a Jew” in 1523.

He was 59 in 1543 when he wrote against Jews along with targeting "Roman Catholics, Anabaptists, and nontrinitarian Christians". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#

He died at age 62 in 1546 after years of ill health: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#Final_years,_illness_and_death
"Luther had been suffering from ill health for years, including Ménière's disease, vertigo, fainting, tinnitus, and a cataract in one eye.[260] From 1531 to 1546, his health deteriorated further. In 1536, he began to suffer from kidney and bladder stones, arthritis, and an ear infection ruptured an ear drum. In December 1544, he began to feel the effects of angina".

I posit that his multiple illnesses contributed to his negative psychological outlook producing what can be seen on JPP every day: bitter, angry old men bitching about others.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
obviously his vile writings are not what he founded........should we ignore Plato because he didn't bathe regularly?.........
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No, we can't ignore Plato's misogyny any more than we can ignore Luther's anti-Semitism.

Despite the fact of their historical importance.

These are things that get discussed by scholars and theologians, even interested lay persons.

I have been more than fair to Luther and have explicitly made note of the beneficial results of the Protestant reformation. I strive for a balanced view of history and religion, and don't play on any teams - that's why holy rollers leap to the assumption I am an atheist, and atheists jump to the assumption I am a bible thumper.
 
Doc Dutch said:
I look at it from a different angle, starting with age.

Martin Luther was born in 1483.

He was 34 when he published his Ninety-five Theses of 1517.

He was 39 when he wrote “That Jesus Christ Was Born a Jew” in 1523.

He was 59 in 1543 when he wrote against Jews along with targeting "Roman Catholics, Anabaptists, and nontrinitarian Christians". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#

He died at age 62 in 1546 after years of ill health: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther#Final_years,_illness_and_death
"Luther had been suffering from ill health for years, including Ménière's disease, vertigo, fainting, tinnitus, and a cataract in one eye.[260] From 1531 to 1546, his health deteriorated further. In 1536, he began to suffer from kidney and bladder stones, arthritis, and an ear infection ruptured an ear drum. In December 1544, he began to feel the effects of angina".

I posit that his multiple illnesses contributed to his negative psychological outlook producing what can be seen on JPP every day: bitter, angry old men bitching about others.
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I was wondering about that too.

He was pretty generous to Jews in his early writings, at least by the standards of the day.

Then he got old and cranky and wrote a really vile treatise on the Jews, it was even vile by the standards of the day.
 
Cypress said:
I was wondering about that too.

He was pretty generous to Jews in his early writings, at least by the standards of the day.

Then he got old and cranky and wrote a really vile treatise on the Jews, it was even vile by the standards of the day.
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Constant pain can produce mental illness and negative, hateful thoughts. Again, look at the bitter, angry assholes on JPP and look for similarities: Elderly Euro-culture "Christian" males.
 
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