Marijuana U.S.A.!!

Mr. Shaman said:
.....So it can be grown in backyards for personal usage.....just like making beer & wine.​
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Exactly. Or bookcases or bird houses. It's just a substance that government should stay out of unless you are endangering someone. Driving under the influence for example is completely reasonably illegal. You can't throw bookcases into the street either
 
SmarterthanYou said:
only if the state constitution gave them that power.
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I believe I did say that with that the Government could make it legal by preventing States from banning cross State sales. Are you agreeing with that, or saying something else?

What the Federal government does not have the legitimate power to do is ban intrastate sales. Government using the commerce clause to restrict interstate sales of weed is also against the spirit of the commerce clause which was intended to prevent States from putting up trade barriers between themselves, it wasn't intended for the Federal government to have a power to restrict interstate trade itself
 
Zake said:
I believe I did say that with that the Government could make it legal by preventing States from banning cross State sales. Are you agreeing with that, or saying something else?
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what power does a state have to ban sales across state lines?

Zake said:
What the Federal government does not have the legitimate power to do is ban intrastate sales. Government using the commerce clause to restrict interstate sales of weed is also against the spirit of the commerce clause which was intended to prevent States from putting up trade barriers between themselves, it wasn't intended for the Federal government to have a power to restrict interstate trade itself
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I agree wholeheartedly.
 
Zake said:
I believe I did say that with that the Government could make it legal by preventing States from banning cross State sales. Are you agreeing with that, or saying something else?

What the Federal government does not have the legitimate power to do is ban intrastate sales. Government using the commerce clause to restrict interstate sales of weed is also against the spirit of the commerce clause which was intended to prevent States from putting up trade barriers between themselves, it wasn't intended for the Federal government to have a power to restrict interstate trade itself
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Some people just refuse to recognize they're on the losing-side o' History.


http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/...ska-v-Colorado-The-War-on-Weed-295996161.html​
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I don't believe it should be legal because that would then be giving the federal government credibility in their faulty assumption that they could prohibit it. It needs to be decriminalized and treated like any other weed, out of the federal governments jurisdiction......unless of course some business decides to mass produce and sell on the market.
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That's what's going-on, here, in PA.

The state's preference is that you'll (have to) rely upon commercial-preparations.​

April 14, 2016 - "Another concern is that the proposed bill doesn’t allow for smokable flower or edibles, which could undercut the market.

But because the program allows several other forms of consumption – pills, oils, topicals, tinctures and liquids – program backers say patients will have enough options to want to sign up."

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The local/common-consensus is.....the only fight (about legalization) was.....who gets to profit, mo$t, from legalization.

Pretty-much like drugs, in-general, PA is desperately-clinging to the ol' timey hypocrisies of differentiating between drugs & medicine.

When the substance is bought at a pharmacy, it's medicine.

If you bought the (same) substance, on the "street", it's a drug!​
 
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"Ya' say your lady-parts are aching??"​


August 24, 2016 - "Comedian Whoopi Goldberg is eyeing Canada as a potential market for her cannabis-infused menstrual pain products, underscoring marijuana entrepreneurs’ interest in the country’s market ahead of the federal government’s plans to legalize adult-use MJ.

Whoopi & Maya, as Goldberg’s cannabis products are known, is currently available only in California. But Goldberg said in an interview this week she would like to make the therapy available to Canadian women, according to the Canadian Press.

Part of Canada’s attraction as a market, Goldberg suggested, is that medical marijuana already is legal at the federal level – although only a limited number of licensed producers currently can sell MMJ to patients.

Looking ahead, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government has promised to legalize recreational marijuana, and plans to introduce legislation in the spring of 2017."

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August 23, 2016 - "Oregon’s recreational marijuana sales have passed the $100 million mark this year.

Although rec sales began at medical dispensaries last October, the state didn’t begin taxing those sales until January, at 25%. The 2016 sales figures for the first seven months are in line with the $180 million-$220 million in retail sales the Marijuana Business Factbook 2016 projects for the entire year.

The total sales figure at the end of July is an estimated $102 million, according to the Oregonian.

Sales numbers are likely to increase as the year goes on, given that dispensaries were allowed to begin selling edibles and concentrates to adult-use customers on June 2.

In addition, the full rec market is slated to launch in the fall, meaning an increase in the amount of MJ products rec customers can purchase as well as more storefronts from which to buy.

State economists are projecting roughly $44.4 million in state tax revenue from rec sales in 2016, which would equate to $177.6 million in sales for the year."

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August 25, 2016 - "Voters will decide this November on a statewide ballot measure to legalize and regulate the adult use and retail sale of cannabis.

The Secretary of State's office has confirmed that initiative proponents, The Campaign to Regulate Marijuana like Alcohol, submitted a sufficient number of signatures from registered voters to qualify the measure for the November ballot. A Maricopa County judge has also dismissed a lawsuit that sought to prohibit the measure from going before voters, although initiative opponents may seek to further litigate the matter before the state Supreme Court.

Proposition 205 permits adults to legally possess (up to one ounce of marijuana flowers and/or five grams of marijuana concentrates) and cultivate marijuana (up to six plants) for their own personal use, and establishes licensing for its commercial production and retail sale. Commercial, for-profit sales of cannabis will be subject to taxation, while non-commercial exchanges of marijuana will not be taxed."

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Zake said:
I don't get your point. There is no Constitutional amendment regarding pot at all. How does that make it different? They misused the Constitution to make it illegal, then fixed it by legalizing it again. They never did anything with pot.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I actually don't see your point. It seems to me your point would logically lead to that weed should just be legal
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Not curious that you never get the point! I'll give you this one at a 3rd grade level.

Historical American government of the early 20th century was more respectful of the Constitution. They knew they needed a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol. The sons of bitches that came later in the government had no such respect for the Constitution related to some drugs. Those are the same kind of crooked bastards you're voting for today.

The Drug War is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!
 
Robo said:
Not curious that you never get the point! I'll give you this one at a 3rd grade level.

Historical American government of the early 20th century was more respectful of the Constitution. They knew they needed a constitutional amendment to prohibit alcohol. The sons of bitches that came later in the government had no such respect for the Constitution related to some drugs. Those are the same kind of crooked bastards you're voting for today.

The Drug War is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!
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Thanks for dumbing down the point I made to you and repeating it back to me to confirm you got it.

You're not clicking that I'm saying the Federal government has no say over pot, are you? It's not in the Constitution. So yes, to ban it, they would need an amendment.

How do you not get that I'm agreeing with you? Does it piss you off when people agree with you? Like you're missing something somehow if you agree with someone?
 
September 7, 2016 - "The continued operation of marijuana social clubs, which exist in spite of the state's stance that they are illegal, are vexing enforcement officers with the Alcohol and Marijuana Control Office, an officer told the Marijuana Control Board on Wednesday.

Local law enforcement doesn't want to touch the clubs, James Hoelscher, enforcement supervisor with the Alcohol and Marijuana Control Office, told the Marijuana Control Board.

"It just seems like it's not something they want to deal with at this time," Hoelscher said.

Local law enforcement would work with the Alcohol and Marijuana Control Office on taking action against the clubs, both the Department of Law and the Department of Commerce and Economic Development said.

But the issue has become "kind of like hot potato," Hoeslcher said.

"Without the local law enforcement's support on this it feels like we're just spinning tires," Hoelscher said, adding that his own department is stretched thin."


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Yeah.....it's gotta really be breakin' the local-cops' backs.....not dealing with as many drunken-bar-fights!!!!!

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September 8, 2016 - "Smokng marijuana during pregnancy doesn't appear to increase the risk of preterm birth or other harmful birth outcomes, a new review study suggests.

The researchers did initially find a link between smoking marijuana during pregnancy and an increased risk of having a preterm or low-birth-weight baby. But when they took into account whether the pregnant women also smoked tobacco in addition to marijuana, this increase in risk went away.

In other words, the risk of having either a preterm birth or a baby with a low birth weight was due to tobacco smoking, and marijuana use by itself was not linked to these outcomes, the researchers said.

The findings "do not imply that marijuana use during pregnancy should be encouraged or condoned," the researchers, from Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, wrote in the October issue of the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology. Rather, the lack of a link between marijuana use and harmful pregnancy outcomes suggests that attention should be focused on helping pregnant women to stop using tobacco or other substances known to have adverse effects on the pregnancy, they said."

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