Marxism: a cynical abstraction of base tribalism.

Trumpet said:
He's a weird one, isn't he?????
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AssHatZombie isn't a robot like most people here. There are countless economists predicting the end of capitalism, something Marx wrote about 155 years ago. Capitalism has brought us full circle back to feudalism. Zoomers will not own a house or a car. Neofeudalism want the masses to rent everything. I know quite a few millennials who lease a car and rent a house.

Endless QE isn't working so capitalism is about to go bankrupt for the 6th time in 35 years. The moratorium on foreclosures has ended. Where are all those families going to go? Again, young folk are demanding something better than capitalism.
 
Walt said:
I read the Communist Manifesto. But I did not need to in order to know that Marx did not advocate heavy nationalism, or any form of nationalism; classism yes, but not nationalism. It is all there in the Marxist slogan "workers of the world unite!!!"

Accusing Marx of "cynical abstraction of base tribalism" is the furthest from the truth you can be. That would be fascism.
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Marx substitutes for tribalism economic class. You are what your job and economic status are. It's the same thing. Today, Marxists are substituting race for economic status since the later proved wrong invalidating Marx's predictions the workers would rise up and take control.
 
goat said:
AssHatZombie isn't a robot like most people here. There are countless economists predicting the end of capitalism, something Marx wrote about 155 years ago. Capitalism has brought us full circle back to feudalism. Zoomers will not own a house or a car. Neofeudalism want the masses to rent everything. I know quite a few millennials who lease a car and rent a house.

Endless QE isn't working so capitalism is about to go bankrupt for the 6th time in 35 years. The moratorium on foreclosures has ended. Where are all those families going to go? Again, young folk are demanding something better than capitalism.
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This is wrong. Capitalism hasn't brought us back to feudalism, Socialism has. Socialism makes most in society dependent on the State. In a very real sense, this is little different from being dependent on a feudal lord. It is the Left and Socialists that want to turn most people in society into dispossessed renters. Naomi Klein, the Leftist economist has written extensively on this subject calling for the maximization of making people renters, not owners as in a Capitalist society because then they would vote with the Left.
 
BidenPresident said:
fuck you, you goddam troll
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goat said:
Capital is possibly the most difficult read there is but the first volume should be mandatory in every high school. It explains why we the people deserve something better than capitalism. Young folk have already figured that out because they don't have the same opportunities as we did.
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a social credit system?

we need capitalism without fiat currency and less corruption.

fiat currency needs to end.

it is totalitarianism.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Marx substitutes for tribalism economic class. You are what your job and economic status are. It's the same thing. Today, Marxists are substituting race for economic status since the later proved wrong invalidating Marx's predictions the workers would rise up and take control.
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but the marxists now are making everything racial, and abandoning economic class, since they're corrupt and rich now.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This is wrong. Capitalism hasn't brought us back to feudalism, Socialism has. Socialism makes most in society dependent on the State. In a very real sense, this is little different from being dependent on a feudal lord. It is the Left and Socialists that want to turn most people in society into dispossessed renters. Naomi Klein, the Leftist economist has written extensively on this subject calling for the maximization of making people renters, not owners as in a Capitalist society because then they would vote with the Left.
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unrestricted crony capitalism plus fiat currency are, in fact, leading back to slavery.

but capitalism can be salvaged with trust busting and currency reform.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This is wrong. Capitalism hasn't brought us back to feudalism, Socialism has. Socialism makes most in society dependent on the State. In a very real sense, this is little different from being dependent on a feudal lord. It is the Left and Socialists that want to turn most people in society into dispossessed renters. Naomi Klein, the Leftist economist has written extensively on this subject calling for the maximization of making people renters, not owners as in a Capitalist society because then they would vote with the Left.
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The fed handed out $16 trillion in the last 2 years. $14 trillion of that welfare went straight to the largest, most profitable, multinational corporations, while we the people got a lousy $2000. Wall Street is on the verge of collapse, again. That's where all the socialism is going.
 
goat said:
The fed handed out $16 trillion in the last 2 years. $14 trillion of that welfare went straight to the largest, most profitable, multinational corporations, while we the people got a lousy $2000. Wall Street is on the verge of collapse, again. That's where all the socialism is going.
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This is just changing the question with whataboutism.
 
AssHatZombie said:
a social credit system?

we need capitalism without fiat currency and less corruption.

fiat currency needs to end.

it is totalitarianism.
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Worker cooperatives and federations are making an impact. USFWC, CICOPA, NCBA, COOP, NAFCU, NRECA are the future. The Mondragon Corporation doesn't suffer from the recessions/depressions like the rest of western economies. Capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy. It's time to evolve as a society.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You stated: "Most leftists/liberals don't refer to Marxism for their political views."

So, what sources do you refer to for your political views? Or, are you the exception to that and do refer to Marxism?
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Ok, the political theory of Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Machiavelli, Mill, Hegel, US Constitution, Rawls. Others.
 
we just need the way it was before globalization zealotry, and befoere allowing human slavery onto the international market by trading with communist slavers.

you actually can put toothpaste back in a tube.
 
goat said:
Worker cooperatives and federations are making an impact. USFWC, CICOPA, NCBA, COOP, NAFCU, NRECA are the future. The Mondragon Corporation doesn't suffer from the recessions/depressions like the rest of western economies. Capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy. It's time to evolve as a society.
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im not sure what you mean.

we just need to cut nations that enslave people out of trade.

sanctions instead of favored nation status.
 
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