Masculinity, what is it? What’s toxic.

Jarod said:
These Trumppers are sure there is a secret “them” working to make us weak and useless, it’s themselves, but they need someone to blame.
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Trumptards believe grabbing women by the pussy is Masculine!
Trumptards believe that being a bad sport and never admitting they lost an election is Masculine?
Trumptards believe that banning Abortions and telling women what they can or cannot do with their own bodies is Masculine!
Trumptards believe that insurrections are Masculine!
Trumptards believe knocking an 82 year old innocent man in the head with a hammer is Masculine!
Trumptards think hating Hillary is Masculine!
Trumptards think that never saying you are sorry for anything or admitting guilt is Masculine!
Trumptards think that a fear of Vaccines is masculine!
Trumptards think intentional lying, and believing in Conspiracy theories is Masculine!
Trumptards think Pleading the 5th is Masculine!
Trumptards think refusing to testify is Masculine!
Trumptards think separating illegal immigrant parents from their children is Masculine!
Trumptards think Military parades are Masculine.
Trumpatrds think that refusing to pay your taxes is Masculine!
Trumptards think you have to own semi-automatic pistols and AR-15's to actually be Masculine.
Trumptards think that Old-Shaming is Masculine!
Trumptards think it is masculine to hate minorities and accuse them of cheating while trying to suppress their votes!
Trumptards particularly think that when a cop shoots and kills an unarmed minority - that is masculine.
Trumptards think that denying Science and History is Masculine!

PLEASE ADD MORE, AS I HAVE THOUSANDS OF MORE THINGS THAT TRUMPTARDS THINK ARE MASCULINE!
 
AssHatZombie said:
women are generally more concerned about reputation damage.

Mean girlism. virtue signalling. passive agressive backstabbing.

though men often do these things.

its considered bitch behavior.
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Being forced to wear a mask, get 6 jabs, and be locked down for 18 months is somehow not seen as toxic.
 
AssHatZombie said:
women are generally more concerned about reputation damage.

Mean girlism. virtue signalling. passive agressive backstabbing.

though men often do these things.

its considered bitch behavior.
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You’ve met quite some women!!? The majority I know are not like that. Those I knew who were like that grew out of it at about 16.
 
Life is Golden said:
They want everyone as subservient and pliable as possible.
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The thing is I feel conservative men are more compliant and here is why:

I feel that myself and most Democrats would not attack the Capital if someone like trump ordered us to. Now, I'm choosing trump because he's loud, he lies a great deal, and he bullies people to the point of harassment. You might claim differently, but I don't think most people like me appreciate people like that.

Secondly, and this is both a blessing and a curse to me: Republicans fall in line, when ordered. During the Iraq war, they were all saying the same thing: "Mushroom cloud" "We gotta fight 'em over there so we don't have to fight them over here" "Either you're with us or against us". <--- they were all saying the same thing, they were all on the same page. It was wrong, in my opinion, but it worked.

I think one reason the Democrats suck at winning hearts is that there is so much infighting among us, like the Bernie/Hilary thing that we cannot "get on the same page" and communicate even a simple, clear message to voters.

I feel that's one of the Dems strengths as well. We question stuff, therefore it's much harder to "heard us cats", aka: make us compliant.
 
LurchAddams said:
The thing is I feel conservative men are more compliant and here is why:

I feel that myself and most Democrats would not attack the Capital if someone like trump ordered us to. Now, I'm choosing trump because he's loud, he lies a great deal, and he bullies people to the point of harassment. You might claim differently, but I don't think most people like me appreciate people like that.

Secondly, and this is both a blessing and a curse to me: Republicans fall in line, when ordered. During the Iraq war, they were all saying the same thing: "Mushroom cloud" "We gotta fight 'em over there so we don't have to fight them over here" "Either you're with us or against us". <--- they were all saying the same thing, they were all on the same page. It was wrong, in my opinion, but it worked.

I think one reason the Democrats suck at winning hearts is that there is so much infighting among us, like the Bernie/Hilary thing that we cannot "get on the same page" and communicate even a simple, clear message to voters.

I feel that's one of the Dems strengths as well. We question stuff, therefore it's much harder to "heard us cats", aka: make us compliant.
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Conservative men are clearly more susceptible to being bullied, that’s clear.

They are also more afraid to stand out. They always follow the crowd, try harder to “fit in”.
 
Jarod said:
Conservative men are clearly more susceptible to being bullied, that’s clear.

They are also more afraid to stand out. They always follow the crowd, try harder to “fit in”.
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One of the nasty bi-products and I think this is appropriate to this thread, is that conservatives tend to consider violence, "strength". His fans really get a kick out of his rallies when he asks the crowd to beat the shit out of people. Right before the 1/6 attack: You gotta show strength you can't be weak, or they'll take your country away from you".

Conservatism, since W. at least, has all been about attacking you enemies, both foreign and domestic.
 
Jarod said:
I enjoy a lot of what Jordan Peterson says… don’t agree with a lot of it, but he is thought provoking.


He talks about both a cultural bias against healthy masculinity and about toxic masculinity…

I tend to agree with him on both accounts. But it has me interested in how this plays in politics. The angry abused man comes out often behaving in a toxic way…

So, to you, what are characteristics, of Toxic masculinity and what are characteristics Of healthy masculinity?
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Jordan Peterson is a fuckwit, almost as bad as Ayn Rand.
 
goat said:
It's all subjective. A healthy male mind doesn't care what labels are put on him.
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healthy is healthy.

toxic is toxic.

gender has nothing to do with it.

the genders have toxicities that are more common for their gender.

men tend towards violence. direct confrontation with assault

women tend towards passive aggression, emotional abuse, and social ostracism.

but individuals typically have both in their persona somewhere, sometimes more or less consistent with gender stereotypes.

jordan peterson is wrong about making beds and "you gotta be dangerous".
 
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