I’ve never been to a “message” parlor, do you know what happens there, sounds intriguing.
Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence
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That's because no one lives where you live; you live in isolation.
LOL...I just noticed he misspelled "massage".
Can't these fuckers do anything right?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
This isn't entirely fair, LV.
If we use the logic type questions from SAT tests,
the fact that all mentally ill people don't commit gun crime does not disqualify mental illness from being the cause of gun crime, logically.
Most guns are not used in gun crimes, so guns by themselves can't be the sole reason of gun crime.
On the other hand, all gun crimes are committed by people, so people are definitely the problem.
Banning all transportation vehicles would clearly eliminate traffic deaths.
What can we do with that info?
Guns are inanimate objects. People are often seriously fucked up.
I suppose being a person rather than a gun makes it hard to admit that.
Oh no, no the idiotic ban cars bullshit again. Can’t you morons see the absurdity of that lame argument?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Explain the absurdity.
Guns and automobiles just sit there doing nothing until people misuse them.
Guns and automobiles cause no problems when people use but don't abuse them.
So explain the absurdity, please.
I'm a hard left progressive liberal. I don't believe in private ownership of military weapons.
I feel that handguns in urban areas should be registered.
But I just don't understand blaming inanimate objects for what deficient people do.
Dear God, do you have any idea how bad killing the President of the USA is? You throw around killing our President and VP like it is a big joke. It is illegal even to say you are going to kill the President (or VP) even as a joke.
If someone in BLM killed the President, whoever the President was, it would mean BLM failed completely. It would be impossible to support them for any reasonable person. Even if they had tried and failed to kill VP Pence, it would be impossible for any reasonable person to support them.
AND YET THE ALT RIGHT TRIED TO KILL VP PENCE!!! It should be impossible to support them, but 12 Republicans did just that. They objected to saying it was wrong to try to kill the VP of the USA while he is doing his most important duty.
Yes, we have heard it all before. And that is why you need to send them to concentration camps. This is not even interesting.
I post an analysis of minimum wage, and the response is that I am a "pedocrat", and told that all Democrats are pedophiles. When I point that is a multiple violation of 12b, it is explained that it is OK to violate 12b if you accuse a whole group.
OK, I totally hear you.
However, if the problem isn't guns, but rather people, then what sense does it make to give the problem access to guns?
If this is a mental health issue, then we would need to pre-screen every single gun owner with a mental health evaluation, and those evaluations would have to happen at least once per year. Those evaluations are going to inevitably result in some of those gun owners losing their weapons. So the blame for that would fall squarely on those who think gun violence, like what happened in Atlanta this week, is a symptom of mental illness.
Comparing guns to cars isn't a good comparison to make because of a few things:
1. Cars are heavily regulated in this country, you need to pass a test to use one, you need to be licensed, you need to be insured, you need to have your car inspected every year, and your car must adhere to at least 90 different federal safety regulations. You also lose your ability to drive a car if you fail an eye test, break the law, fail to renew your license, let your insurance lapse, or get multiple tickets/citations.
2. Deaths from automobiles used to be twice what they are today. In 1980, before a slew of seat belt laws, safety regulations, and speed limits, there were approximately 80K deaths on the roads every year. Fast forward 40 years from 1980, with all those safety regulations and more, and the number of deaths on our roads was literally cut in half, even as the number of cars on the roads doubled. And today, about as many people die on the roads as die from guns. But back in 1980, the same people who say gun control is an infringement of rights today, also said speed limits and seat belt laws were an infringement of rights that wouldn't protect anyone. They were wrong, of course.
3. My goal would be to have a completely gun-free society, but I know that's unrealistic...however, what we can do is stop production of firearms for civilian use now, that way no more guns are put into circulation.
4. About 200,000 guns are stolen from the homes and cars of "responsible gun owners" every single year, and about 10% of the time, the "responsible gun owner" doesn't even tell the cops the gun was stolen. Guns are one of the top items stolen from people's homes and cars by burglars; they LOOK for guns when they're breaking into your house and car. So that means 20,000 guns every year just...VANISH. After ten years, that's 200,000 guns that no one knows whose hands they're in. To me, that is the scariest and most troubling statistic about guns because it means there are 200,000 people who went out of their way to get an illegally-acquired weapon whose likely purpose is to commit a crime and/or an act of violence. If a thief steals a car, they're not stealing the car to commit a murder or a crime, they're stealing the car to sell it, most likely. When someone steals a gun, they're not stealing the gun to sell it, they're stealing the gun to use it.
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I was being ironic. I am pointing to the duplicitous attitude form the dem lefties ... I know Americans dont get irony but all you do is open your mind.
I dont agree that you should be referred to as a Pedo because you argue on the minimum wage. That is wrong.
Comparing guns to cars isn't a good comparison to make because of a few things:
1. Cars are already heavily regulated in this country; you need to pass a test to use one, you need to be licensed, you need to be insured, you need to have your car inspected every year, and your car must adhere to at least 90 different federal safety regulations. You also lose your ability to drive a car if you fail an eye test, break the law, fail to renew your license, let your insurance lapse, or get multiple tickets/citations.
2. Deaths from automobiles used to be twice what they are today. In 1980, before a slew of seat belt laws, safety regulations, and speed limits, there were approximately 80K deaths on the roads every year. Fast forward 40 years from 1980, with all those safety regulations and more, and the number of deaths on our roads was literally cut in half, even as the number of cars on the roads doubled. And today, about as many people die on the roads as die from guns. But back in 1980, the same people who say gun control is an infringement of rights today, also said speed limits and seat belt laws were an infringement of rights that wouldn't protect anyone. They were wrong, of course.
3. About 200,000 guns are stolen from the homes and cars of "responsible gun owners" every single year; about 10% of the time, the "responsible gun owner" doesn't even tell the cops the gun was stolen. Guns are one of the top items stolen from people's homes and cars by burglars; they LOOK for guns when they're breaking into your house and car. So that means 20,000 guns every year just...VANISH. After ten years, that's 200,000 guns that no one knows whose hands they're in. To me, that is the scariest and most troubling statistic about guns because it means there are 200,000 people who went out of their way to get an illegally-acquired weapon whose likely purpose is to commit a crime and/or an act of violence. If a thief steals a car, they're not stealing the car to commit a murder or a crime, they're stealing the car to sell it, most likely. When someone steals a gun, they're not stealing the gun to sell it, they're stealing the gun to use it.
You could claim you were being sarcastic. I guess it is ironic that you think you were being ironic.
The point applies that this crazy talk about killing America's leaders is out of control, and should be stopped. Only on one side is there widespread acceptance of it.
No, that response is exactly what it intends; to demean and belittle the false comparison you make between guns and cars.
A comparison that doesn't stand to scrutiny at all.
IDIOTNo, he's just a regular, ordinary, typical "responsible gun owner".
There are millions of people with guns who do not shoot up Asian (or any other) businesses.
States with the most guns per person
Wyoming. Guns per capita: 0.23 Number of registered weapons: 132,806
New York Guns per capita: 0.00 Number of registered weapons: 76,207
Which state has more gun violence, since more guns means more violence?
Since its just the fault of guns
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You mean, there are millions of people with who have not YET shot up an Asian business.
So if you're steering this to ambiguous "mental health", then the natural progression is mandatory mental health evaluations and screenings for every single US gun owner in order to determine which of those gun owners would go out and shoot up an Asian business with a gun they bought the same day.
That is going to inevitably lead to many gun owners losing their guns, and who do you think they're going to blame? Me, or the person who insisted that they lose their guns because they're mentally ill?
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
All other countries never closed down their Mental Institutions and turned the crazies into the streets.