Barely anyone lives in Wyoming.
If people are the problem, not guns, then why do you want to give the problem guns?
Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence
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Barely anyone lives in Wyoming.
If people are the problem, not guns, then why do you want to give the problem guns?
According to the Violence Policy Center, Alaska has the highest rate of gun deaths, followed by Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Oklahoma.
Illinois is in the bottom half of those rankings, dipshit.
All other countries never closed down their Mental Institutions and turned the crazies into the streets.
Actually, many countries did just that. There was a retreat from easy institutionalization, as there was previously an advance into it.
There is a reason that America is alone in this level of violence (alone in the first world), and it is not because we are the only country with crazy people, minorities, immigrants, or liberals. In fact, other countries have more of all those, and yet not this level of violence.
Yes, you can point out that Mexico, Syria, and Afghanistan are worse... Should we be really comparing ourselves to those countries?
Not really. It has to be a serious threat although you might get a visit from the Secret Service.
You can even say I wish somebody would shoot President Biden in the head or if President Biden comes into my bedroom I will shoot him. In the first you did not threaten to shoot him and in the second you are basing it on a future condition.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
But it's not crazy homeless people who are committing violent acts with guns.
All these mass shooters never underwent any mental health evaluation. None of them were homeless.
So if you want to pin the blame for mass shootings on mental illness, then you must support annual or semi-annual mandatory mental health evaluations for every single gun owner and prospective gun owner in the US. That will inevitably lead to people losing their guns.
So who do you think those crazy, violent people are going to blame? Me, or the person who insisted their mental illness was the danger to others, therefore they must be stripped of their rights and weapons?
Firearm Death Rate:
Wyoming 21.5
New York 3.9
Intentional Homicide Rate
Wyoming 2.4
New York 2.9
So it would appear the homicide, or "gun violence" rate is pretty much the same.
But it would appear that gun owners in Wyoming are WAY MORE SUICIDAL OR RECKLESS AND ACCIDENT PRONE than gun owners in New York.
Does anyone want to venture a guess as to why? Cuz, I have theories....
It is not the "gun violence" rate but intentional homicide. It includes all homicides and is not limited to guns. It appears WY is much more likely to have gun deaths but NY is more likely to intentionally kill people with (guns, knives, poison, assault....)
The absurdity, pal, is that automobiles are an absolute, critical necessity in a modern society. Without them, there is absolute societal collapse. There intrinsic nature is to transport people and goods.
Guns, on the other hand, whose intrinsic nature is to SHOOT THINGS (usually people), are completely unnecessary in the function of a modern society. Several western cultures do very well indeed without their presence.
Next.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
You need airdropped into an American wilderness with Grizzly bears and wolves.
Why are high-cap magazines needed? Because blacks go home-invading 6 deep.
Nope. My response means you’re a fucking idiot.
Name one of those "many countries" then, and provide proof.
Off the top of my head, Canada, Australia, the UK, France... Just about every other western first world country released most of their mental institutionalized. It was a general, international theory of psychology. When the Iron Curtain came down, the Central European countries joined the Western European countries.
You could make the argument that those countries are welfare states that take care of people who cannot work, even though they are outside institutions... But not that deinstitutionalization happened only in America. It was a worldwide process.
Canadians have far more bears and wolves than the USA.
"more likely" by 0.5...within the context of every other state, how does that look?
"more likely" by 0.5...within the context of every other state, how does that look? For example, is NY's 2.9 the highest, mid-range, low-range...?
That just is not true. Wyoming has a homicide rate of 4.4, while New York has a lower homicide rate of 3.2.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
Gun violence is not just murder, but also suicide, accidental shootings, and even accidental legal homicides. For instance, a man who shoots his son who came home early thinking that his son was an intruder is completely legal in Wyoming. But it is definitely a gun death that could have been prevented by gun control. It is not a gun death that would commonly happen in Canada, or Switzerland, even though they have higher gun ownership than the USA. They have gun control, which the NRA is against.
If you want to go further towards gun elimination, Japan has a quarter of our population, but can go a year without any gun deaths. Wyoming has 0.2% of Japan's population, and cannot go even a week without a gun death.
The fact is that controlling guns, not eliminating them, but just controlling them, reduces all murders, and gun deaths. It also reduces suicides, as we saw in Australia. Two thirds of the people who would have committed suicide with a gun will find another way to commit suicide... But one third will think better of the situation, and not commit suicide. With murder, it is closer to 90% who do not commit murder. With gun accidents, and accidental homicides, it is well above 90% who do not do it.
Regarding suicide...
85% of all suicide attempts with firearms are successful, but only 3% of suicide attempts with drug overdoses are successful.
So the canard that people will kill themselves another way if we ban guns is just that...a canard.
If someone wants to kill themselves (its their body) than they should have the best possible tool
You should kill yourself to prove that point.