I don't.
How many people died in 2020 in backyard swim pools?
Because over 35,000 people died from guns last year.
Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence
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I don't.
How many people died in 2020 in backyard swim pools?
Because over 35,000 people died from guns last year.
If you are blaming mental illness for mass shootings, then you must also support mandatory mental health evaluations for every single gun owner.
The inevitable result of that is that many people, yourself included, will probably lose their guns.
So do you support that?
If not, how do you propose we keep guns out of the hands of people with undiagnosed mental illnesses?
It is far more difficult to kill 5 people with a knife than it is to kill five people with a gun.
If it wasn't, then why did your "very fine person" buy a gun an hour before attacking the spas this past Wednesday?
Don't worry, I know you won't answer that question, and I know you won't answer the question as to whether you support mandatory mental health exams for every gun owner because you're nothing more than a giant, sloppy, hairy, wet ass pussy.
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T. A. Gardner
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This is clearly an appeal to probability along with being an incomplete comparison, among other fallacies.
This was the argument presented. Here's the rebuttal that demolishes it.
There are millions of mentally ill people in the US.
There are also millions of sane people in the US.
Mentally ill people sometimes commit violent crimes, including ones against Asians.
Sane people sometimes commit violent crimes, including ones against Asians.
Both groups use firearms in the commission of some of these crimes.
Firearms are an inanimate object, a tool, nothing more.
Whether mentally ill, or sane, a person can commit violent crimes using a firearm. The motivation for those crimes varies dramatically.
First, clearly gun violence is not the fault of firearms, but rather people--both sane and insane--using them in inappropriate and illegal ways.
So, the clear conclusion here is that mental illness can be the cause of gun violence in some criminal acts and always has been. That most mentally ill will never commit a violent act using a firearm, does not negate that some mentally ill will use a firearm in a violent, criminal act.
As for this,
If the shooter was, as claimed, mentally ill then his specificity of target could well be brought on by his mental illness. He could have a fixation about spas and massage parlors being the root of his problem, meaning that strip clubs were meaningless to him and not considered targets as a result. Even a sane person could be equally selective based on rational choices.
This would be akin to the mentally ill person that shot Gabrielle Gifford (a House Representative from Arizona) a few years ago for being who she is. He had a specific target in his delusion, ignoring other potential targets. Another example by analogy might be that a heron addict doesn't want cocaine to satisfy their addiction.
That this person chose to use a firearm instead of say a flamethrower or bombs, was a choice too. That doesn't make the firearm involved the culprit for the crime. It was a tool.
So, there is every reason to accept that this wasn't a race based crime. To further reinforce this, three of the victims were not Asian. Two were White, one Hispanic. This strengthens the argument that the shooter targeted spas / massage parlors as a specific part of his delusion, and you reinforced that by stating he ignored other sex oriented venues in proximity to the selected targets.
LV426's argument is an utter and complete fail. It has zero validity.
You're projecting your mental illness again snowflake. Get some help. I notice you don't want to debate facts anymore. Just more of your predictable shlidlike prattle.
I doubt anyone could find your brains hack.
T. A. Gardner
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Why do you keep including the phrase "very fine person" in your responses here? Just curious.
You're the one who says mental illness is the cause of gun violence.
So OK, if that's what you're saying, then how do you prevent mentally ill people from getting guns?
You'll say "well, we have laws that prevent that", and I'll say "I know, but what about the people who are NOT diagnosed?"
That question is one none of you have been able to answer.
The reason is obvious; there is only one answer - mandatory psych evaluations, recurring at least annually, for every single gun owner in the US.
That will inevitably result in many people, yourself included, most likely losing their guns or the ability to get a gun.
So if you want to stigmatize mental illness for mass shootings and violence, then you must support means by which to prevent mentally ill people, diagnosed and undiagnosed, from getting guns.
BUT YOU DON'T.
ALL of the guns used in recent mass shootings were obtained lagally or stolen from their parents. Therefore, the notion that MORE laws would stop them are moronic and stupid.
Let's try some honesty here; leftist morons like you don't want to make it harder for criminals to get guns, but rather, ban all guns altogether gutting the second amendment.
I see that you no longer want to deal with the topic or facts, but rather, prattler nonsensical bullshit like the lying moron we know you to be. You're the definition of mentally unstable snowflake.
OK, so then if people are the problem, then why do you want to let the problem have access to guns?
There you go again with the dishonest bullshit. How do I define myself by a gun dumbass? I know; because a lying dumb cunt like you said so.
Ok, so if the guy is mentally ill, then why was he allowed to buy a gun an hour before committing the murders with it?
You're the one who is here telling us that your identity is intrinsically linked to an inanimate object you're probably not even cleared to use.
If you had to appear before a judge to determine whether or not you could keep your weapons, all anyone would need to do to prevent that from happening is show the judge all your posts on JPP.
Because he's one of yours.
He's a white, angry, fundamentalist, gun-loving Christian who loves Confederate monuments.
Is he not one of the "very fine people" Trump and you were referring to before?
So you continue to lie like a dishonest moron removing any dount you have severe mental issues.
Where did I say I wanted to make it easy for criminals to get guns? How is buying a weapon simple today? You don't like reality or facts do you asshat?
So now you admit that gun laws would do NOTHING to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
Ummmmm, gun violence is about criminal activity you dumb cunt. Yes, criminals commit violence dumb cunt. God you're stupid.
Yes you are.
So much for "responsible gun ownership".
Not at all.
You're blaming mental illness for this shooting.
So had this guy been pre-screened for mental illness before he bought the gun, he wouldn't have been able to buy the gun.
Criminals can just break into your home or car to get a gun...that's what happens to 20,000 guns every year.
Would you consider not properly storing your guns as a mental illness? Because that's how those guns mostly end up in the hands of criminals..
The biggest source of firearms for criminals are "responsible gun owners".
No it isn't. Only someone who has never tried to buy a gun, OR, lacking in honesty and facts can make such a remarkably stupid claim.
He may have picked up the gun, but he did would not have been able to buy it and take it home same day dumb fuck.
You are a lying, dishionest dumb cunt who is the definition of a very dangerous and unbalanced person.
Calm down...don't go on a rampage now that I've upset you on an anonymous message board.