Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence

[LV426]

Because it is a cause, but not the only cause, we have some degree of screening in place for this.

No we do not.

There is no screening in place to prevent an undiagnosed mentally ill person from getting a gun.

The only way someone like that could be prevented from getting a gun is if they were already diagnosed.

My point is that undiagnosed people don't obviously have a diagnosis, so any "screening" won't pick that up, will it?

 

[volsrock]

6 "massage" parlors in the same block, are you kidding me? Sounds like a Red light district that is ignored by law enforcement. WHY?

 

[Wolverine]

If you ever had to go before a judge, you better pray that the opposing council doesn't access your posts on JPP.

Because your posts would probably result in you getting committed, and at the very least, a judge would determine that you are mentally unbalanced.

Nonsense, he would show him your posts that he is responding to, and they would come get you!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

OK, so if it CAN BE, then how do you prevent mentally ill people, who are not diagnosed, from getting a gun?

You accept a certain level of risk in your life. How do you prevent sane people with criminal intent from getting a gun? The Las Vegas shooter for example? Risk is present in our lives. Trying to eliminate all of it is as I said, a fool's errand. Trying to be 100% safe is not only unachievable, it's insane in my view.

Thus a new question arises. How do we as a society keep insane people from making the rules?

 

[Truth Detector]

Because he's one of yours.

He's a white, angry, fundamentalist, gun-loving Christian who loves Confederate monuments.

Is he not one of the "very fine people" Trump and you were referring to before?

^Dumb delsuonal, dishonest cunt thinks that only angry white racists commit crimes.

Is he not one of the "very fine people" Trump and you were referring to before?

He is? When did Trump define white, angry, fundamentalist, gun loving christians as "very fine people?" I don't think you can post without looking retarded and dishonest.

Trump stated that there were fine people on BOTH sides who were fine people. Dumb, angry dishonest Government loing Marixist cunts like you have to lie about it.

How is this guy one of them? Was he at the protest in SC? Try to be less mental and stupid.

 

[LV426]

o rid society of guns because the screening system is imperfect is as absurd as ridding society of cars because some drivers are bad at it.

There is no screening system, and even if there was, it's not adequate since undiagnosed people can simply walk into a gun store and walk out with a gun and ammo.

The only way to prevent crazy people from getting guns is to screen all the gun owners and all prospective gun owners.

That is the only sure fire way we can be certain that mentally ill people aren't getting their hands on guns with ease.

Because no one is going to voluntarily tell the gun retailer that they are a paranoid schizophrenic who is undiagnosed.

 

[LV426]

Screening is a viable option and one that generally works.

What screening are you talking about?

When and where do they require a mental health screening prior to buying a gun?

Nowhere as far as I know....

 

[Truth Detector]

So much for "responsible gun ownership".

So much for honest factual debate.

You're blaming mental illness for this shooting.

There you go lying your dumb ass off like a mentally unstable pathological loon. Find the post where I said this. Then admit you're nothing more than an unstable mentally unsound lying little cunt.

So had this guy been pre-screened for mental illness before he bought the gun, he wouldn't have been able to buy the gun.

I am amused that you are stupid enough to believe that criminals will sumbit to such a law in order to buy a gun legally and commit a crime. Where you born retarded? Or just work hard at looking the part?

 

[LV426]

Since the use of firearms in crimes by mentally ill persons is a small percentage of all firearm related crimes

Wait - so now you're saying that mental illness isn't to blame for gun violence?

The truth is that you don't know what percentage of gun crimes are committed because of "mental illness" and which aren't.

So the only way we can be sure that no mentally ill people can get guns, is to submit to mental health evaluations.

There is no other way.

 

[LV426]

what you want is to impose draconian measures

How are mandatory mental health examinations "draconian"?

They only seem to be "draconian" to the people who couldn't pass one.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Because he's one of yours.

He's a white, angry, fundamentalist, gun-loving Christian who loves Confederate monuments.

Is he not one of the "very fine people" Trump and you were referring to before?

Let's see... I"m not Christian, but Buddhist. I have no "love" of Confederate monuments whatever that has to do with whatever. I'm neither angry nor fundamentalist, and using the current standards of ethnic identity, I'm Hispanic since my ancestors settled in Texas when it was part of Mexico making them Mexican citizens and therefore by extension making me Hispanic (as insane as that Leftist 'logic' is). So, he isn't "one of (mine)."

But, that aside as a show of the level of crazy on the Left (maybe banning all Democrats from owning guns as a result as you have to be insane to be on the Left) neither you nor I know if this guy was some sort of religious nut, liked Confederate statues, or anything else really at this point.

So, your appellation doesn't appear to be valid.

 

[LV426]

what you want is to impose draconian measures on the other say 95% of people owning firearms on a regular basis

Ah....but...they haven't used their firearm illegally YET.

They could though.

So just because you haven't lost control and gone on a mass shooting YET, doesn't mean you might never.

at some cost possibly prohibitive--to try and stop a miniscule number of criminal acts.

First of all, you don't know if it's "miniscule".

Secondly, if you are of sound mind, then you have nothing to worry about when it comes to an evaluation, and in fact, should be welcoming of one to prove you are of sound mind.

But if you're as paranoid as you appear on this thread, you probably would have a lot to worry about when it comes to an evaluation. So really, you're telling on yourself here.

 

[Truth Detector]

Criminals can just break into your home or car to get a gun...that's what happens to 20,000 guns every year.

Yes, they could. So why do you think MORE laws will stop them you dumb cunt?

Would you consider not properly storing your guns as a mental illness? Because that's how those guns mostly end up in the hands of criminals..

I would consider your arguments as one coming from someone with severe mental illness and dishonesty. So what laws would stop them from stealing guns to commit crimes dumbass?

The biggest source of firearms for criminals are "responsible gun owners".

So your solution is to remove "responsible" gun ownership thus leaving the criminals as the only one's who are armed? What a pile of mentally ill bile you constantly erupt with. I am starting to beliebe your mental illness is not an act. That you reallay are a fucking retard.

Tell me something dumbass; do you think the "DEFUNDED" police prevent crimes from happening?

 

[Flash]

"more likely" by 0.5...within the context of every other state, how does that look?

Looks like gun ownership has no real effect on the number of intentional homicides.

 

[Truth Detector]

Calm down...don't go on a rampage now that I've upset you on an anonymous message board.

I don't think you can post without being a dishonest, delusional moron on steroids. So you want to avoid the topic and facts and just rant like a mentally unsiound dumbass? Got it.

 

[LV426]

So now you're an internet psychologist too... Yea, sure.

Well, I mean, you've exhibited paranoia on JPP, and specifically on this thread.

The paranoia you have is around the mental health evaluation...the only reason to oppose it or call it "draconian" is if you anticipate being unable to pass the evaluation.

The only "draconian" thing about mandatory mental health evals would be stripping away the guns and the rights from people who couldn't pass the evaluation.

But anyone who couldn't pass the evaluation isn't someone you'd want to have a gun anyway, right?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Wait - so now you're saying that mental illness isn't to blame for gun violence?

The truth is that you don't know what percentage of gun crimes are committed because of "mental illness" and which aren't.

So the only way we can be sure that no mentally ill people can get guns, is to submit to mental health evaluations.

There is no other way.

 

[Truth Detector]

This whole thread has been about you loudly and obnoxious proclaiming your identity as an ammosexual.

Another mentally unstable and lie filled claim. I don't think you can post without looking like a mental case and lying pathologically. I accept your consession on the topic and facts.

 

[Lao Tse]

There are millions of mentally ill people in the US that do not go and shoot up Asian businesses.

So mental illness isn't the cause of gun violence, and never was.

The cause of gun violence is and always will be guns.

'Sex Addiction' Cited As Spurring Spa Shooting, But Most Killed Were Of Asian Descent
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/17/9782...s-reason-but-most-victims-were-of-asian-desce

If it was about sex addiction, why didn't this "very fine person" target any of the millions of strip clubs in Atlanta, which is practically what the fucking city is known for.

In fact, there are two strip clubs about 100 yards away from the spas he attacked on Piedmont.

because a handjob at a strip club costs way more than a tug at a massage parlor.

why are massage parlors so asian?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

How are mandatory mental health examinations "draconian"?

They only seem to be "draconian" to the people who couldn't pass one.

They are if required at unreasonable intervals and cost. They are if they are subjective in nature. They are if the person(s) doing the screening have vested interests in the outcome. That's for starters.