Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence

Truth Detector said:
^Mentally unstable, lying dumb cunt thinks criminals buy guns at gun stores. :palm:
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Well, the guy who shot up Atlanta on Wednesday bought his gun at a gun store.

And yeah, most criminals don't buy guns from gun stores, they just steal their guns from you and your fellow "responsible gun owners".

You are the biggest supplier of guns for criminals.
 
Wolverine said:
Race had nothing to do with it!
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Then why didn't he target any of the half dozen strip clubs half a mile away from where these spas are located? Because you can get a handy at a strip club just as easily as getting one at a spa.

There's a stripclub called The Tattletale Lounge that it literally 100 yards from the spas that were attacked.
 
LV426 said:
What screening are you talking about?

When and where do they require a mental health screening prior to buying a gun?

Nowhere as far as I know....
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So they should subject everyone to a mental health screening before buying a car, voting......??

I am amused that you still think CRIMINALS will get their guns from a gun store, moron.

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LV426 said:
OY VEY.

So suicide is a result of mental illness, isn't it? Depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, or some other form of that.

So you're also saying that a majority of gun deaths are suicides.

So those suicides could have been prevented if there was a pre-screening process in place to determine a gun owner/buyer's state of mental health before they purchased the weapon used to kill themselves.

And no, they won't simply find another way to kill themselves successfully because, according to Harvard researchers, 85% of all suicide attempts with guns are successful, but only 3% of suicide attempts by drug overdose are successful.

And far more people try to kill themselves with drugs than guns; drug overdose is the #1 method by which people attempt suicide BY FAR.

So if suicide death prevention is your new shiny object, then again, the only reasonable solution are mandatory pre-screenings for mental illness prior to buying a gun.
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^This is why you cannot agrue with a disonest, triggered, low IQ mental case. Any questions?

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volsrock said:
6 "massage" parlors in the same block, are you kidding me? Sounds like a Red light district that is ignored by law enforcement. WHY?
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PLUS three strip clubs

PLUS two adult bookstores, with a third a quarter of a mile away (Tokyo Valentino).

But he targeted the spas.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You accept a certain level of risk in your life.
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Ah, so you're a quitter then.

You're not a big picture thinker.

You're telling us that you're too lazy and too uninspired to come up with a way to keep people safe, so everyone else must accommodate your laziness.

Typical.
 
LV426 said:
If there was a mandatory pre-screening mental illness evaluation, most of the 15,000 people who killed themselves with guns last year would probably still be alive.

The reason I come to that conclusion is that firearms have a "success" rate of 85% vs. drug overdose (the #1 means by which people attempt suicide) of just 3%.

So if you figure that 15,000 kill themselves every year from gunshot, and 85% of those attempts are successful, that means that roughly 17,000 people try to kill themselves with guns every year.

If instead of guns, those 17,000 chose drugs, only 510 people would have died vs. 15,000.

So based on that, do you still believe that pre-screening for mental illness is not a good idea?
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Still can't make a coherent argument as to what laws will prevent criminality I see. Stop with the mental gymnastics and circle of stupidity ass clown. I get it. You're a triggered nut job who believes that laws and the police actually stop crimes from occurring.

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T. A. Gardner said:
How do you prevent sane people with criminal intent from getting a gun?
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According to your friends, all criminals are mentally ill anyway.

Criminals don't buy guns from stores, they steal them from people like you...people who probably couldn't pass a mental health examination to get the gun in the first fucking place, and who don't properly store their weapons, or think they do but are pilfered anyway.

Spree killers, like your "very fine person" who killed 8 people on Wednesday, buy their guns legally without a mental health screening.

That's how the Newtown, Parkland, El Paso Walmart, Pulse Night Club, Las Vegas MGM Hotel, Charleston, VA tech, and now Atlanta spa shooters got theirs.
 
LV426 said:
If there was a mental health pre-screening, that probably would catch a lot of these criminals.
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Only if you stupidly believe that the mental health profession can screen for mental illnesses and that criminals will obey our laws. How fucking stupid are you? Just STFU already. We get it, you're a triggered mental case on steroids.

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LV426 said:
If there are no guns available because you're not a supplier of them anymore, those criminals have to take on much more risk to get a gun...and the riskier the proposition, the less likely they are to go forward and the more likely they are to get caught.
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So you finally admit that you want a total ban and confiscatiopn of the 393 million guns in the US. Why didn't you just say so in the first place instead of pretending you have a brain?

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LV426 said:
Ah, so you're a quitter then.

You're not a big picture thinker.

You're telling us that you're too lazy and too uninspired to come up with a way to keep people safe, so everyone else must accommodate your laziness.

Typical.
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A ménage of logical fallacies.

What does my accepting a certain level of risk in my life have to do with success or "quitt(ing)?"

How is my assessment that some risk is acceptable "not... big picture think(ing)?" It is exactly that.

I am stating that a reasonable screening doesn't mean a full battery of psychological testing is necessary and required on a sustained basis to own a firearm, particularly if that testing is done by the government or agents of the government. I am willing to accept some reasonable requirements for a purchase of a firearm but not ones that demand 100% safety. That standard is unachievable in a functioning society.

That you call it "lazy" is simply an ad hominem since you aren't giving us an alternative argument for how such screening is possible without massive cost and bureaucratic delay to the point that many person's Rights would be trampled on along the way.
 
LV426 said:
You JUST SAID that he was.
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Link to where I said anything about this perp being mentally ill. I get it; triggered mentally ill liars like you think if you repeat a dumb lie enough times everyone will believe it.

LV426 said:
So I'm going off what YOU JUST SAID.

So how did this mentally ill guy manage to buy a gun an hour before using it?
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Like a mentally ill person, you fabricate arguments no one has made. So tell us, what laws do CRIMINALS obey? Dumbfuck. :palm:

LV426 said:
EXACTLY MY POINT!

Welcome to the fucking conversation, TD.

The store doesn't know because the guy underwent no mental health evaluation or screening.

Had he done that, they would have known.

So doesn't that prove that mandatory mental screenings would go a long way to stopping that kind of gun violence, and probably way more, and at the very least, also add in some fucking accountability!?!?
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^Dumb cunt can't even comprehend the point being made.

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LV426 said:
According to your friends, all criminals are mentally ill anyway.

Criminals don't buy guns from stores, they steal them from people like you...people who probably couldn't pass a mental health examination to get the gun in the first fucking place, and who don't properly store their weapons, or think they do but are pilfered anyway.

Spree killers, like your "very fine person" who killed 8 people on Wednesday, buy their guns legally without a mental health screening.

That's how the Newtown, Parkland, El Paso Walmart, Pulse Night Club, Las Vegas MGM Hotel, Charleston, VA tech, and now Atlanta spa shooters got theirs.
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Ah, finally, we reach the ad hominem... How usual.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The Las Vegas shooter for example?
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Had that guy underwent a mental health screening, he probably would have been denied a legal gun, which would have then meant he had to take on excessive risk to buy a gun illegally. Taking on that excessive risk would probably have resulted in him getting caught.


rying to eliminate all of it is as I said, a fool's errand.
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No it's not. Not at all. All it takes is commitment and effort...so if you're incredibly lazy and cynical, then get the fuck out of the way.

If we commit society to pre-screening people for gun ownership, relegating it to the "responsible gun owners" we're promised exist, then that would pretty much eliminate most gun violence because the "responsible gun owners" won't supply the criminals with guns because the "responsible gun owners" responsibly store their weapons. Right? Isn't that what you pretend to be? A "responsible gun owner" who stores his weapons safely and securely?

How are we to know if you're a "responsible gun owner" who does that without mandatory screenings or even inspections like they do in Japan?

You see where I'm going with this, right? I'm putting the responsibility on you for your guns.
 
guAno said:
Im a crouching porch honkey , barking low grade
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TRUE; but you're also a low IQ, lying, race hustling, worthless piece of human filth. :thumbsup:

guAno
noun
gua·no | \ ˈgwä-(ˌ)nō
: a fertilizer containing the accumulated excrement of seabirds or bats broadly : excrement especially of seabirds or bats

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