Mercedes-Benz CEO: We are convinced the future is electric

Blazed Pascal said:
lol

you people are mandating it.

how delusional are you?

charging stations still must be on the grid, a grid that uses ICE.

you're a moron.
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Look, what i know is for almost 100 years ICE vehicle have had the gov't behind them, 'picking winners and losers' by over a hundred years of direct and indirect subsidies and bailouts to Oil and gas and ICE manufacturers.

And you guys did not GAF about that CONSTANT gov't intervention on behalf of ICE. So your tears now are delicious. NOthing makes me happier than seeing Magats cry crocodile tears when faced with what they supported or cheered on prior.

No one is saying EV's will not use the grid involves fossil fuels. This is about progression OVER TIME, and this pretense that it has to be a wholesale switch (all or none) on day 1 is just stupid Magat thought. PROGRESS is best in increments as the cost can be lowered and absorbed as the technology improves. think of the early Internet roll out and then broadband after. If they tried to roll it out equally to every rural community it would have been deeply unprofitable and caused bankruptcies. Thus they focused on big cities first (economies of scale) and as the tech improved and the cost came down they spread out to rural communities.

Similarly EV's and EV networks will rely less and less on Fossil fuel grid supply as battery tech improves and green energy sources continue to both become more numerous and the tech for those improves increasing capture and storage.

The problem we have is incredibly stupid Magats like Terry, who continue to argue that if the 'benefits/improvements to tech/lower cost/etc' do not exist TODAY, they will never come', which is defied by pretty much 100% of all prior big tech advancements (PC, INternet, Telephone, TV, ICE vehicles, etc), where the initial rollouts where expensive and only a small percent of the populace could access them and that changed OVER TIME, as tech improved with scale and investment.

Anyone arguing EV and Battery and Green Energy tech will not follow that same path, despite the massive amount of Investments betting they will, has the onus on them to make that 'outlier' argument.
 
QP! said:
Look, what i know is for almost 100 years ICE vehicle have had the gov't behind them, 'picking winners and losers' by over a hundred years of direct and indirect subsidies and bailouts to Oil and gas and ICE manufacturers.

And you guys did not GAF about that CONSTANT gov't intervention on behalf of ICE. So your tears now are delicious. NOthing makes me happier than seeing Magats cry crocodile tears when faced with what they supported or cheered on prior.

No one is saying EV's will not use the grid involves fossil fuels. This is about progression OVER TIME, and this pretense that it has to be a wholesale switch (all or none) on day 1 is just stupid Magat thought. PROGRESS is best in increments as the cost can be lowered and absorbed as the technology improves. think of the early Internet roll out and then broadband after. If they tried to roll it out equally to every rural community it would have been deeply unprofitable and caused bankruptcies. Thus they focused on big cities first (economies of scale) and as the tech improved and the cost came down they spread out to rural communities.

Similarly EV's and EV networks will rely less and less on Fossil fuel grid supply as battery tech improves and green energy sources continue to both become more numerous and the tech for those improves increasing capture and storage.

The problem we have is incredibly stupid Magats like Terry, who continue to argue that if the 'benefits/improvements to tech/lower cost/etc' do not exist TODAY, they will never come', which is defied by pretty much 100% of all prior big tech advancements (PC, INternet, Telephone, TV, ICE vehicles, etc), where the initial rollouts where expensive and only a small percent of the populace could access them and that changed OVER TIME, as tech improved with scale and investment.

Anyone arguing EV and Battery and Green Energy tech will not follow that same path, despite the massive amount of Investments betting they will, has the onus on them to make that 'outlier' argument.
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it's just that the chinesese are influencing you to put batteries in the mix because they have monopolized battery raw materials.

you're just a traitor.
 
QP! said:
Look, what i know is for almost 100 years ICE vehicle have had the gov't behind them, 'picking winners and losers' by over a hundred years of direct and indirect subsidies and bailouts to Oil and gas and ICE manufacturers.

And you guys did not GAF about that CONSTANT gov't intervention on behalf of ICE. So your tears now are delicious. NOthing makes me happier than seeing Magats cry crocodile tears when faced with what they supported or cheered on prior.

No one is saying EV's will not use the grid involves fossil fuels. This is about progression OVER TIME, and this pretense that it has to be a wholesale switch (all or none) on day 1 is just stupid Magat thought. PROGRESS is best in increments as the cost can be lowered and absorbed as the technology improves. think of the early Internet roll out and then broadband after. If they tried to roll it out equally to every rural community it would have been deeply unprofitable and caused bankruptcies. Thus they focused on big cities first (economies of scale) and as the tech improved and the cost came down they spread out to rural communities.

Similarly EV's and EV networks will rely less and less on Fossil fuel grid supply as battery tech improves and green energy sources continue to both become more numerous and the tech for those improves increasing capture and storage.

The problem we have is incredibly stupid Magats like Terry, who continue to argue that if the 'benefits/improvements to tech/lower cost/etc' do not exist TODAY, they will never come', which is defied by pretty much 100% of all prior big tech advancements (PC, INternet, Telephone, TV, ICE vehicles, etc), where the initial rollouts where expensive and only a small percent of the populace could access them and that changed OVER TIME, as tech improved with scale and investment.

Anyone arguing EV and Battery and Green Energy tech will not follow that same path, despite the massive amount of Investments betting they will, has the onus on them to make that 'outlier' argument.
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You're wasting your time. Blazed Psycho has the mental maturity of a twelve year old.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Shouldn't you be sucking Trump's dick right about now? Trump can't suck his own dick, you know.
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Typical :palm: When you got your ass kicked, then your teeth kicked in, you resort to immorality and perversions. You have bazaar fantasies. TDS aplenty :awesome:
 
BTW, that electric Benz is $700 a month (not including electrical upgrades to charge the damn thing!).

Joey shits himself.
 
RB 60 said:
BTW, that electric Benz is $700 a month (not including electrical upgrades to charge the damn thing!).

Joey shits himself.
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Well I drive a Tesla Model Y and it costs me about $45 a month to drive.
Sorry to make you all butthurt.

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Joe Capitalist said:
Well I drive a Tesla Model Y and it costs me about $45 a month to drive.
Sorry to make you all butthurt.

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Butthurt?

I believe your thread title is Mercedes-Benz CEO: We are convinced the future is electric

Again! That electric Benz is $700 a month (not including electrical upgrades to charge the damn thing!).

Change that diaper Joey.
 
RB 60 said:
Butthurt?

I believe your thread title is Mercedes-Benz CEO: We are convinced the future is electric

Again! That electric Benz is $700 a month (not including electrical upgrades to charge the damn thing!).

Change that diaper Joey.
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Renting Electric: Top Rental Car Companies That Offer EVs

As car buyers have shifted more and more towards prioritizing electric vehicles, car rental companies have followed. With how many cars they put out on the road each year, American car rental companies have a significant impact on the country's carbon footprint, and thankfully, they've realized this, incorporating more and more*electric cars into their fleets as EVs have become more popular.
Whether your life revolves around making the world a better place or simply curious to try out the latest and greatest electric cars the next time you're on a trip and need a rental, you need a starting point. Which of the major car rental agencies have large supplies of electric cars that you can top up using the best public EV charging networks?
Using*J.D. Power 2023 North America Rental Car Satisfaction Study as a guide to determine what a*"top rental car company" entails, let's take a look at which of those top rental agencies are currently loaning out electric vehicles.

Enterprise:
Enterprise introduced electric vehicles to its fleet in 2011 with 500 Nissan*Leafs,*adding the Chevrolet Volt that same year.*"We have a vested interest and a history of working with manufacturers to integrate alternative-powered vehicles into our fleet,"*Lee Broughton,*Enterprise's then-director of sustainability, told UPI in 2010. The company had already been pushing whatever fuel-efficient vehicles were available on the market going back to a 2007 initiative.
"We know that more and more consumers expect the companies that serve them to share their concerns about the environment,"*said Andrew C. Taylor, then-chairman and CEO, in a June 2007 press release.*"For our company and our industry to be successful, we must address those concerns while also working to sustain our business over the long term. To that end, Enterprise is investing in the latest technologies to minimize fuel consumption and related emissions, today and tomorrow."

Hertz:
Like*Enterprise, Hertz started renting electric vehicles in 2011, starting with the Nissan*Leaf. Hertz showed just how serious it was in November 2010 when it announced a partnership with NRG Energy to develop a charging infrastructure for its incoming fleet of EVs. (That came the same week as another partnership, this time with EV manufacturer CODA Automotive.)*
"Hertz is the first to provide consumers with electric vehicle access on a global scalar,"*then chairman and CEO Mark P Frissora said in a December 2010 press release.*"By introducing EVs in New York, Washington, and San Francisco, we're the first to make tomorrow's driving experience available to consumers today and we look forward to continue building out our EV platform, making electric mobility a reality for consumers worldwide."
Hertz added Tesla cars to its inventory starting in late 2013, albeit as part of its high-end lineup. In October 2021, it pledged to order 100,000 more vehicles from Elon Musk's company by the end of 2022. That pledge had a noticeable positive effect on Tesla stock, pushing the EV giant past a $1 trillion market cap.

Avis:
In 2020,*Avis secured*130 million Euros in funding specifically earmarked to bolster its fleet of hybrid and electric cars. Investors reacted positively and boosted Avis's stock price when it pledged to further increase its EV inventory in November 2021.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Renting Electric: Top Rental Car Companies That Offer EVs

As car buyers have shifted more and more towards prioritizing electric vehicles, car rental companies have followed. With how many cars they put out on the road each year, American car rental companies have a significant impact on the country's carbon footprint, and thankfully, they've realized this, incorporating more and more*electric cars into their fleets as EVs have become more popular.
Whether your life revolves around making the world a better place or simply curious to try out the latest and greatest electric cars the next time you're on a trip and need a rental, you need a starting point. Which of the major car rental agencies have large supplies of electric cars that you can top up using the best public EV charging networks?
Using*J.D. Power 2023 North America Rental Car Satisfaction Study as a guide to determine what a*"top rental car company" entails, let's take a look at which of those top rental agencies are currently loaning out electric vehicles.

Enterprise:
Enterprise introduced electric vehicles to its fleet in 2011 with 500 Nissan*Leafs,*adding the Chevrolet Volt that same year.*"We have a vested interest and a history of working with manufacturers to integrate alternative-powered vehicles into our fleet,"*Lee Broughton,*Enterprise's then-director of sustainability, told UPI in 2010. The company had already been pushing whatever fuel-efficient vehicles were available on the market going back to a 2007 initiative.
"We know that more and more consumers expect the companies that serve them to share their concerns about the environment,"*said Andrew C. Taylor, then-chairman and CEO, in a June 2007 press release.*"For our company and our industry to be successful, we must address those concerns while also working to sustain our business over the long term. To that end, Enterprise is investing in the latest technologies to minimize fuel consumption and related emissions, today and tomorrow."

Hertz:
Like*Enterprise, Hertz started renting electric vehicles in 2011, starting with the Nissan*Leaf. Hertz showed just how serious it was in November 2010 when it announced a partnership with NRG Energy to develop a charging infrastructure for its incoming fleet of EVs. (That came the same week as another partnership, this time with EV manufacturer CODA Automotive.)*
"Hertz is the first to provide consumers with electric vehicle access on a global scalar,"*then chairman and CEO Mark P Frissora said in a December 2010 press release.*"By introducing EVs in New York, Washington, and San Francisco, we're the first to make tomorrow's driving experience available to consumers today and we look forward to continue building out our EV platform, making electric mobility a reality for consumers worldwide."
Hertz added Tesla cars to its inventory starting in late 2013, albeit as part of its high-end lineup. In October 2021, it pledged to order 100,000 more vehicles from Elon Musk's company by the end of 2022. That pledge had a noticeable positive effect on Tesla stock, pushing the EV giant past a $1 trillion market cap.

Avis:
In 2020,*Avis secured*130 million Euros in funding specifically earmarked to bolster its fleet of hybrid and electric cars. Investors reacted positively and boosted Avis's stock price when it pledged to further increase its EV inventory in November 2021.
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I don't rent cars, I buy them. But if I do, I won't be renting an EV.
 
TOYOTA BOASTS NEW BATTERY TECHNOLOGY WITH 745-MILE RANGE AND 10-MINUTE CHARGING TIME — HERE’S HOW IT MAY IMPACT MASS EV ADOPTION
The potential to significantly reduce pollution could be huge.
by Leo Collis*/*November 25, 2023

https://apple.news/A7QIl2_wkRYukxEsK6Eyd7A

Toyota is gaining confidence in bringing new battery technology to the electric vehicle market that could shake up the whole sector.
The Japanese manufacturer has been working on delivering solid-state EV batteries in future models, which could increase driving range and decrease charging times.
According to Toyota, as Yahoo Finance reported, these batteries could deliver 745 miles on a single charge, while recharging would only take around 10 minutes.
The company has estimated that vehicles boasting solid-state batteries could be available starting in 2027 or 2028.
Such technology could make a real difference in consumer choices, with many unconvinced about switching from dirty-fuel-powered cars to cleaner electric ones because of concerns about driving range.
 
RB 60 said:
Butthurt?

I believe your thread title is Mercedes-Benz CEO: We are convinced the future is electric

Again! That electric Benz is $700 a month (not including electrical upgrades to charge the damn thing!).

Change that diaper Joey.
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If you're in the market for a car, the EV version will usually beat out the ICE vehicle when you take into account the cost of fueling the car, maintenance, repairs, insurance, depreciation and other out-of-pocket expenses over time. For example, it costs $39,547 to own a Tesla Model 3 for five years, vs. $63,075 for the Audi TT, Kelley Blue Book found. In fact, the Tesla Model 3 has the lowest five-year cost-to-own of any luxury car, according to Kelley Blue Book.

An EV "almost always is going to cost less to drive than a gas-powered car," said Keith Barry, a writer and editor covering autos at Consumer Reports.

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RB 60 said:
I don't rent cars, I buy them. But if I do, I won't be renting an EV.
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Renting an EV for business travel, as i do often, is the best as you do not need to fuel it up, just before returning the car, or pay a penalty fueling premium, if you did not pay up front the higher fee to have them fuel it for you.

The number of times i have been on work travel, heading back to the airport with little time to spare, and realized i still need to find a gas station and fuel up, is very high. With EV's that problem is gone. As is the problem of many big cities not having convenient nearby gas stations to get fuel, so you are constantly driving out of your way when you need it. All hotels charge up your EV for you so you never even have to think about fuel.
 
QP! said:
Renting an EV for business travel, as i do often, is the best as you do not need to fuel it up, just before returning the car, or pay a penalty fueling premium, if you did not pay up front the higher fee to have them fuel it for you.

The number of times i have been on work travel, heading back to the airport with little time to spare, and realized i still need to find a gas station and fuel up, is very high. With EV's that problem is gone. As is the problem of many big cities not having convenient nearby gas stations to get fuel, so you are constantly driving out of your way when you need it. All hotels charge up your EV for you so you never even have to think about fuel.
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Yup, EVs are clearly better than gas cars. Everyone agrees to that (except the butthurts).

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RB 60 said:
Butthurt?

I believe your thread title is Mercedes-Benz CEO: We are convinced the future is electric

Again! That electric Benz is $700 a month (not including electrical upgrades to charge the damn thing!).

Change that diaper Joey.
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It depends on the down payment. DTE in Mich. has a vendor list that agrees to upgrade reasonably cheaply. The car charger comes with the vehicle. The cost of a garage upgrade is not terrible. The EV gets that back quickly.
 
RB 60 said:
Typical :palm: When you got your ass kicked, then your teeth kicked in, you resort to immorality and perversions. You have bazaar fantasies. TDS aplenty :awesome:
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The popular electric vehicles provide a welcome boost for clean travel. They produce no pollution while out on the road, meaning that no planet-harming gases — which contribute to global heating — are created by the cars while out and about.*
Electric cars also make a huge difference when it comes to air quality wherever you’re driving.*
According to the American Lung Association, gasoline and diesel exhaust fumes contain particulate matter, volatile organic compounds, nitrogen oxides, and carbon monoxide, which can all lead to respiratory and heart conditions or exacerbate existing health problems.*

Butthurt much, IQ60?

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Joe Capitalist said:
The popular electric vehicles provide a welcome boost for clean travel. They produce no pollution while out on the road, meaning that no planet-harming gases — which contribute to global heating — are created by the cars while out and about.*
Electric cars also make a huge difference when it comes to air quality wherever you’re driving.*
According to the American Lung Association, gasoline and diesel exhaust fumes contain particulate matter, volatile organic compounds, nitrogen oxides, and carbon monoxide, which can all lead to respiratory and heart conditions or exacerbate existing health problems.*

Butthurt much, IQ60?

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Ok. they don't have exhaust. I guess that's one thing that won't rust from the salt coated roads in the winter...
 
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