Mercedes-Benz CEO: We are convinced the future is electric

Isnt this the same chap who threatened that governments had better mandate EV's...not allow people the choice?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
If you want to understand them pay close attention to who they hate...
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...and who they don't

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QP! said:
How many of the hundreds of ICE manufacturers who have gone broke and no longer exist do you guys want me to post?
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You are presenting a Motte and Bailey fallacy. ICE vehicles thrived even if many manufacturers when broke while EV (battery) vehicle manufacturers remained few and almost entirely failed in the market.
 
RB 60 said:
Their only competition were other ICE cars. DUH!
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Not at the time the 1901 Baker went bust, they were not. D'uh.

Regardless not sure you are making the point you think you are. You are trying to say even in a time of less competition they went bankrupt...somehow makes it better?

The issue is that the auto industry, regardless of what energy type the vehicle uses, is a business that is a graveyard of manufacturers to get to every one successful one. Multiple failures (100's, maybe thousands) for every one success. But the derps on this site will act like it is unique to EV's if they happen or that a 1901 EV manufacturer did survive. They do the same with vehicle fires pretending it indicts EV's even as ICE pose the far bigger risk. Derps gonna derp.
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
You are presenting a Motte and Bailey fallacy. ICE vehicles thrived even if many manufacturers when broke while EV (battery) vehicle manufacturers remained few and almost entirely failed in the market.
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Yes Terry we have discussed this often and you have been horrible embarrassed.

ICE manufacturers got the benefit of their fuel source, gasoline, being put up by private entities all across the country, turning the ICE vehicle, alone into a vehicle that was no longer constrained by severely limited fuel access. The US gov't greatly subsidized the Oil and Gas industry, and even still ICE vehicle have struggled mighty to survive requiring industry wide government bail outs many times.

That same type of 'fuel' roll out (charging stations) is happening for EV's now that battery tech has advanced, and the EV industry, unlike ICE, so far is showing they can survive WITHOUT government bailouts.
 
QP! said:
Yes Terry we have discussed this often and you have been horrible embarrassed.

ICE manufacturers got the benefit of their fuel source, gasoline, being put up by private entities all across the country, turning the ICE vehicle, alone into a vehicle that was no longer constrained by severely limited fuel access. The US gov't greatly subsidized the Oil and Gas industry, and even still ICE vehicle have struggled mighty to survive requiring industry wide government bail outs many times.

That same type of 'fuel' roll out (charging stations) is happening for EV's now that battery tech has advanced, and the EV industry, unlike ICE, so far is showing they can survive WITHOUT government bailouts.
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lol

you people are mandating it.

how delusional are you?

charging stations still must be on the grid, a grid that uses ICE.

you're a moron.
 
EV sales expected to hit new U.S. record in 2023—but Germany, China and Norway still lead the way

Electric vehicle sales are expected to hit a record 9% of all passenger vehicles in the U.S. this year, according to Atlas Public Policy. That will be up from 7.3% of new car sales in 2022.

It will be the first time more than 1 million EVs are sold in the U.S. in one calendar year, probably reaching between 1.3 million and 1.4 million cars.
EVs reached 33% of sales in China, 35% in Germany, and 90% in Norway for the first six months of 2023, according to a BloombergNEF EV outlook published in June. These figures include both battery electric vehicles and plug-in hybrid EVs.
In those countries, ambitious government zero-emissions targets, vehicle tax incentives and subsidies, and affordable options play a role in a consumer’s decision to adopt a plug-in vehicle.
Several factors helped boost U.S. EV adoption this year, but in a word, prices have gone down.
Tesla, the current EV market leader, dropped the prices for its popular vehicles multiple times throughout the year. This forced other automakers to try to keep up. Car companies are also now offering greater incentives on their electric models, and dealers are discounting more deeply as EV supply builds up at dealerships.
 
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