Mexico Exhibits it's Prototypes to counter Donald Trump's Wall.

TekWiz said:
You just don't know much about electric fences. A metal ladder would short the fence to ground anyway. In fact Herman Cain proposed such a fence in 2011 and then said he was joking. An electric fence would pose a danger to people on both sides of the fence as well. It is also too expensive. I would probably be ineffective as well. Here is more information:

motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/herman-cain-border-electric-fence/

Also electric fences can easily be defeated:

electromesh.co.za/how-criminals-bypass-electric-fences/

Turdy doesn't really think America needs a wall at all, hatred of people from south of the border is just a dirty tactic to energize "his base" just like Farrakhan talks about Jews and Whites in order to energize his followers. In the end Turdy and Farrakhan use pretty much similar tactics, but Farrakhan is much more educated and intelligent.
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Go troll somewhere else, sock or have the guts to admit who you really are.

BTW, if you touched the metal ladder, you'd be part of that ground.

Hopefully, one of those for whom you want to come here illegally will Kate Steinle your family member WHEN one of them does such a thing again.
 
[h=1]The truth is, Jimmy Carter has been known to put up a wall. Or two[/h]

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Nordberg said:
Walls do not work will Vileherb ever learn? Walls can be scaled, walked around, dug under and flown over, They worked in the middle ages. Mexican cartels are great at tunneling. A wall is a device to please those who ar not logical but are spurred by hate and bigotry. You emotional babies are so spoiled and wrong.
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:lolup:Brain dead leftist dumb fuck who thinks that NOT having a wall will make it harder to get in. :laugh:
 
CFM said:
Irrelevant when the motivation for building the wall is the same.
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Misguided motivations count for nothing. It makes sense to protect your private home from people since everybody knows it's private and off-limits. However here you're talking about a whole country. International rules specify that people are allowed to seek refuge in other nations regardless of "borders." The US law specifies that in order to seek refuge you must be on US soil already. This means that you actually need to step foot on US territory to ask for refuge. You cannot apply for refuge remotely. If you were somehow able to build a fort around the whole USA that would mean that nobody could seek refuge in the USA which would violate international laws. It's just hostile to humanity, impractical, mean-spirited and plain dumb. Even having razor fences between friendly countries is just not a way to live. The USA is on one continent with South America, and if the situation becomes really bad in South America then people will seek refuge in other countries which they can get to. It's only human nature to seek a better place. The USA has a responsibility to its neighboring countries to make sure conditions there are decent. It's not like the USA doesn't affect conditions in neighboring countries. The USA trades with those nations, and Americans consume legal and illegal products from there, such as drugs. The USA has meddled in the politics and affairs of nations around the world through the decades. The USA ultimately should bear some responsibility for what happens in other nations whether people like it or not. It's just the human thing to do. We all live on ONE PLANET, and we all are connected to each other, even if we aren't particularly near each other. Some people are very "nationalistic" so they might feel empathy for someone 3,000 miles away who lives in "their own NATION" but have zero empathy and contempt for someone living the same 3,000 miles away in another nation. This is illogical and pure evil. Humans are still the same no matter where they live on this planet. South Americans perform many jobs which help the USA, just as Chinese in China labor hard to produce MOST of what the USA consumes day in and day out. It is well known that Americans buy a lot of products produced with child, and slave labor around the world. Ignoring this is no way to live on this planet. People must have responsibility to one another or disaster will eventually ensue. All humanity has known over the centuries is war after war. These wars occur because nations have always thought they are on their own have have no responsibility to anyone else. After World War II many realized all the humans of the world depend on one another and nations must all work together towards common goals. Unfortunately a mad psychopath made it to the presidency with the direct assistance of another mad psychopath, Putin himself. The mad psychopath in the oval office only cares about one thing, power, and will do anything to get it. If it means dividing this nation fine, if it means spewing hatred against South Americans, fine. As has been reported he has read Mein Kampf, it was on his night table and he knows Hitler ideology by heart. He is a soul-less crook who is very happy to cheat, steal, abuse, lie, and probably even murder if he had to. This nation must resist this madman and remove him from office as soon as possible. The wall must never be built. The solution is to end the drug trade by legalizing all illegal drugs, which would destroy the drug gangs. But I doubt this will be done since it's very possible that there are many crooked politicians who get nice bribes from the pharmaceutical companies to keep illicit drugs illegal so the population can stay addicted to opioids and they can keep making billions. What sad and pathetic world...
 
TekWiz said:
Misguided motivations count for nothing. It makes sense to protect your private home from people since everybody knows it's private and off-limits. However here you're talking about a whole country. International rules specify that people are allowed to seek refuge in other nations regardless of "borders." The US law specifies that in order to seek refuge you must be on US soil already. This means that you actually need to step foot on US territory to ask for refuge. You cannot apply for refuge remotely. If you were somehow able to build a fort around the whole USA that would mean that nobody could seek refuge in the USA which would violate international laws. It's just hostile to humanity, impractical, mean-spirited and plain dumb. Even having razor fences between friendly countries is just not a way to live. The USA is on one continent with South America, and if the situation becomes really bad in South America then people will seek refuge in other countries which they can get to. It's only human nature to seek a better place. The USA has a responsibility to its neighboring countries to make sure conditions there are decent. It's not like the USA doesn't affect conditions in neighboring countries. The USA trades with those nations, and Americans consume legal and illegal products from there, such as drugs. The USA has meddled in the politics and affairs of nations around the world through the decades. The USA ultimately should bear some responsibility for what happens in other nations whether people like it or not. It's just the human thing to do. We all live on ONE PLANET, and we all are connected to each other, even if we aren't particularly near each other. Some people are very "nationalistic" so they might feel empathy for someone 3,000 miles away who lives in "their own NATION" but have zero empathy and contempt for someone living the same 3,000 miles away in another nation. This is illogical and pure evil. Humans are still the same no matter where they live on this planet. South Americans perform many jobs which help the USA, just as Chinese in China labor hard to produce MOST of what the USA consumes day in and day out. It is well known that Americans buy a lot of products produced with child, and slave labor around the world. Ignoring this is no way to live on this planet. People must have responsibility to one another or disaster will eventually ensue. All humanity has known over the centuries is war after war. These wars occur because nations have always thought they are on their own have have no responsibility to anyone else. After World War II many realized all the humans of the world depend on one another and nations must all work together towards common goals. Unfortunately a mad psychopath made it to the presidency with the direct assistance of another mad psychopath, Putin himself. The mad psychopath in the oval office only cares about one thing, power, and will do anything to get it. If it means dividing this nation fine, if it means spewing hatred against South Americans, fine. As has been reported he has read Mein Kampf, it was on his night table and he knows Hitler ideology by heart. He is a soul-less crook who is very happy to cheat, steal, abuse, lie, and probably even murder if he had to. This nation must resist this madman and remove him from office as soon as possible. The wall must never be built. The solution is to end the drug trade by legalizing all illegal drugs, which would destroy the drug gangs. But I doubt this will be done since it's very possible that there are many crooked politicians who get nice bribes from the pharmaceutical companies to keep illicit drugs illegal so the population can stay addicted to opioids and they can keep making billions. What sad and pathetic world...
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What's sad and pathetic is your bullshit rant. You're nothing than an open borders piece of shit. That sums up everything that is wrong with you and what you believe.

The best thing you can do is create another sock account.
 
hvilleherb said:
It looks like border walls do work. Will liberals admit they're wrong?

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Manual for Mexican Migrants - Guía del Migrante Mexicano
A Mexican Manual for Illegal Migrants Upsets Some in U.S.
By JAMES C. MCKINLEY JR.JAN. 6, 2005
MEXICO CITY, Jan. 5 - The Mexican government drew fire from American advocates of tighter borders on Wednesday for publishing a pamphlet that instructs migrants how to safely enter the United States illegally and live there without being detected.

Officials here say the small booklet, illustrated in comic-book style, is not intended to encourage illegal immigration, but to reduce the loss of life. Last year, more than 300 migrants died while crossing rivers and deserts to reach the United States.

The guidebook also advises would-be migrants to avoid hiring professional immigrant-smugglers and to refuse to carry packages for others. It also instructs people never to lie to border officials, carry false documents or resist arrest.

But groups favoring stricter immigration controls said the pamphlet amounted to a how-to manual for illegal immigrants. The booklet gives advice on what clothes to wear when fording a river and how to cross a desert without getting dehydrated.

It also counsels migrants to keep a low profile once in the United States,...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/wo...ome-in-us.html

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Mexico's Official "Guide For The Mexican Migrant"
In 1994, the Government of Mexico produced this 32-page comicbook-style "How To" guide containing information to aid Mexican citizens seeking to cross the border illegally into the United States. Though little has been said in the national media, questions have been raised regarding the Mexican government's intentions with respect to producing the book.

Below is the text of the book, along with illustrations ---in English:
Dear fellow citizen:

This guide tries to provide you with some practical advice that may be useful to you in case you have made the difficult decision to seek new work opportunities outside of your own country.

The safe way of entering another country is by first obtaining your passport, which is issued by the Delegations of the Secretariat of Foreign Relations, and your visa, which you request at the Embassy or Consulate of the country to where you wish to travel.

However, we actually see many cases of Mexicans who try to cross the northern border without the necessary documentation, crossing high-risk zones that are very dangerous, especially in desert areas or rivers with strong and not always noticeable currents.

INTRODUCTION, PAGES 2 - 3

Mexican ConsulateAs you read this guide you can also learn some basic questions about legal consequences of your stay in the United States of America without appropriate immigration documents, as well as the rights you have in that country once you are there ...
https://www.dallas.org/content/mexic...exican-migrant

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Happy Trails to you ...

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CFM said:
What's sad and pathetic is your bullshit rant. You're nothing than an open borders piece of shit. That sums up everything that is wrong with you and what you believe.

The best thing you can do is create another sock account.
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It's not a bullshit rant, it's a very valid opinion and a world view. I'm sure there are plenty who agree with me 100%. I didn't say I was for "open borders" at all. Where did I say this? I said that the USA has a responsibility to absorb refugees who are escaping from life-threatening conditions. If a "wall" is built, there would have to be plenty of stations where people seeking asylum can be efficiently processed and evaluated. This all costs a lot of money of course, but so does a wall. I don't believe there is any kind of "crisis" at the border as the Turd claims. In fact there are less people trying to enter the country. It's a manufactured crisis which is designed to create some kind of feeling of crisis so Turdy can convince people to vote for him. He's laughable and everyone connected to him is getting locked up. What a comedy show. The man who shouted "lock her up" endlessly, is falling into his own evil trap. That's what I call poetic justice. Laugh and enjoy, don't be upset!
 
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