Michael Moore suggests tRump might be faking the covid diagnosis, and I agree

Bill said:
It could prob be rationalized in a few ways...

He could sell it that his health is a national security issue, along w/ his weight etc..........

Now many would laugh about that, but we must keep in mind this is a mannish old vain guy that spends hours-dying his hair every week, puts on makeup everyday, an hour or so to do/comb his hair & spray it up, wears a girdle & maybe a diaper occasionally.......

For most Americans our health info is confidential as well........

I guess that needs to be weighed against the public's right to know~which he pretty much negated all along, along w/ showing taxes, school records & 25,000+ lies.......
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Congress has a right to know even if it remains classified.

Trump will be released today after his 4th dose of experimental drugs, the 5th dose will be at the WH tomorrow. I'm curious if he'll be "walking" back to the WH unassisted. It'll probably be by limousine and under cover of darkness, no reporters.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Congress has a right to know even if it remains classified.

Trump will be released today after his 4th dose of experimental drugs, the 5th dose will be at the WH tomorrow. I'm curious if he'll be "walking" back to the WH unassisted. It'll probably be by limousine and under cover of darkness, no reporters.
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I would agree, not pelosi has heard anything but what has been "given" to the press......
 
Bill said:
I would agree, not pelosi has heard anything but what has been "given" to the press......
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As posted elsewhere; We, the People have a right to know if Trump's health adversely effects national security, the economy or the Federal government as a whole. They don't have a right to know if he has a micropenis or only one dropped testicle. This includes all other health issues except those mentioned. Congress handles the classified section under certain committees. The legal route takes time.

Here's the good news, Trump is probably fucking himself with this early release. If he relapses, it'll just make him look like a Candidate for the 25th Amendment.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
As posted elsewhere; We, the People have a right to know if Trump's health adversely effects national security, the economy or the Federal government as a whole. They don't have a right to know if he has a micropenis or only one dropped testicle. This includes all other health issues except those mentioned. Congress handles the classified section under certain committees. The legal route takes time.

Here's the good news, Trump is probably fucking himself with this early release. If he relapses, it'll just make him look like a Candidate for the 25th Amendment.
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There is no doubt that trump sees it differently..
you, the People have no right to know if my health adversely effects your national security, the economy or the Federal government as a whole..
Fuck all of you losers
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If he fails to reveal them, you know something is up ... :nodyes:
 
Bill said:
There is no doubt that trump sees it differently..

If he fails to reveal them, you know something is up ... :nodyes:
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Which is just more proof Trump is a fucking moron; the less he tells, the guiltier he looks. He can coop people to lie to the public, but only up to the point of "nation's best interests". After that, Trump is on his own.

Trump checking himself out is especially interesting as is the fact a security perimeter has been drawn around the road leading to WR. No reporters are being allowed to wait outside the exit.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Which is just more proof Trump is a fucking moron; the less he tells, the guiltier he looks. He can coop people to lie to the public, but only up to the point of "nation's best interests". After that, Trump is on his own.

Trump checking himself out is especially interesting as is the fact a security perimeter has been drawn around the road leading to WR. No reporters are being allowed to wait outside the exit.
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He plays to the base........ They'll believe whatever he says no matter what.......
 
Nordberg said:
Here is Trump at the Whitehouse after leaving Reed. He has trouble breathing and is obviously in some trouble. https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/05/president-trump-appears-trouble-breathing-coronavirus-white-house/ Trump lied about his health from the beginning and is still doing it. Trump is spraying Corona all around the Whitehouse. How much disinfecting will have to be done when he loses?
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He does not care one bit if he kills others.......

A small price for others to pay for his ego enhancement...........
 
Bill said:
Hopefully you are right...........:cool:
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I am. :D

That said, like in 2016, let's not forget this is as much about the "D" and the "R" after candidate's names as the candidates themselves...if not even more so.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
That's wishful thinking on your part.....remember, in this country you have a history of military doctors doing experiments on black soldiers and civilians....and exposing troops in general to nuke blasts as a "field test". There are other examples, but you get the picture.

And why shouldn't Pelosi and Schumer "make a big deal of it"? Given the near 4 years of bull horn from Fox News, Murdoch media, etc., one best keep dissent and critical thinking/investigation in the public eye.
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Sorry, but you're talking about shit from 50 years ago. Please draw a line between "during the Cold War" and "after the Cold War".
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My good man, you do realize that events prior to your birthday STILL have effects on current events? The Constitution and Bill of Rights and various amendments are a HELL OF A LOT OLDER than 50 years.....and they GOVERN YOUR LIFE TODAY.

On this and other chat/discussion sites, people are STILL bitching about the Civil War....Vietnam. THE LAW THAT GUARANTEED MY RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY SCHOOL MY PARENTS COULD AFFORD IS ONLY 4 YEARS OLDER THAN I AM. THE LAW THAT REAFFIRMED MY CIVIL RIGHTS (VOTING, ETC.) IS ONLY 4 YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME. And I ain't no spring chicken by a long shot.

In other words, my observation is valid, and your dissent is illogical and essentially incorrect. Just saying.
 
Taichiliberal said:
My good man, you do realize that events prior to your birthday STILL have effects on current events? The Constitution and Bill of Rights and various amendments are a HELL OF A LOT OLDER than 50 years.....and they GOVERN YOUR LIFE TODAY.

On this and other chat/discussion sites, people are STILL bitching about the Civil War....Vietnam. THE LAW THAT GUARANTEED MY RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY SCHOOL MY PARENTS COULD AFFORD IS ONLY 4 YEARS OLDER THAN I AM. THE LAW THAT REAFFIRMED MY CIVIL RIGHTS (VOTING, ETC.) IS ONLY 4 YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME. And I ain't no spring chicken by a long shot.

In other words, my observation is valid, and your dissent is illogical and essentially incorrect. Just saying.
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Yes. Do you realize that things were done 50 years ago that are completely unacceptable today so it's silly to claim they are common today?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
My good man, you do realize that events prior to your birthday STILL have effects on current events? The Constitution and Bill of Rights and various amendments are a HELL OF A LOT OLDER than 50 years.....and they GOVERN YOUR LIFE TODAY.

On this and other chat/discussion sites, people are STILL bitching about the Civil War....Vietnam. THE LAW THAT GUARANTEED MY RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY SCHOOL MY PARENTS COULD AFFORD IS ONLY 4 YEARS OLDER THAN I AM. THE LAW THAT REAFFIRMED MY CIVIL RIGHTS (VOTING, ETC.) IS ONLY 4 YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME. And I ain't no spring chicken by a long shot.

In other words, my observation is valid, and your dissent is illogical and essentially incorrect. Just saying.
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Yes. Do you realize that things were done 50 years ago that are completely unacceptable today so it's silly to claim they are common today?
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Do YOU realize that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 years (at least) to dismantle various Civil Right laws protections, right? One would be in stubborn denial to the point of insipidness to say that the 50 plus years laws don't have relevance and affects on current life in America.

Remember the Tillman incident in 2004? If not, look it up and you'll see why my original point is valid and yours is not.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Do YOU realize that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 years (at least) to dismantle various Civil Right laws protections, right? One would be in stubborn denial to the point of insipidness to say that the 50 plus years laws don't have relevance and affects on current life in America.

Remember the Tillman incident in 2004? If not, look it up and you'll see why my original point is valid and yours is not.
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Pushing what, specifically? That the nasty ol' US Military is still experimenting on African-Americans or still using Nevada to test nukes?

Taichiliberal said:
That's wishful thinking on your part.....remember, in this country you have a history of military doctors doing experiments on black soldiers and civilians....and exposing troops in general to nuke blasts as a "field test". There are other examples, but you get the picture.

And why shouldn't Pelosi and Schumer "make a big deal of it"? Given the near 4 years of bull horn from Fox News, Murdoch media, etc., one best keep dissent and critical thinking/investigation in the public eye.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Do YOU realize that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 years (at least) to dismantle various Civil Right laws protections, right? One would be in stubborn denial to the point of insipidness to say that the 50 plus years laws don't have relevance and affects on current life in America.

Remember the Tillman incident in 2004? If not, look it up and you'll see why my original point is valid and yours is not.
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Pushing what, specifically? That the nasty ol' US Military is still experimenting on African-Americans or still using Nevada to test nukes?


Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
That's wishful thinking on your part.....remember, in this country you have a history of military doctors doing experiments on black soldiers and civilians....and exposing troops in general to nuke blasts as a "field test". There are other examples, but you get the picture.

And why shouldn't Pelosi and Schumer "make a big deal of it"? Given the near 4 years of bull horn from Fox News, Murdoch media, etc., one best keep dissent and critical thinking/investigation in the public eye.
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"Do YOU realize that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 years (at least) to dismantle various Civil Right laws protections, right?" Obviously by your snide reply, you're not. Here's one example for your education: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/us/politics/house-voting-rights.html

To recap: You believed that the military medical personnel at Walter Reed wouldn't go along with any political machinations of Trump and company regarding his Covid treatment. I merely pointed out the the error of that assumption, given our military's history in nefarious deeds against the it's citizens coupled with the President being the Commander in Chief of our military. Your response was the naive belief that 50 year old examples have no relevance to current events. Hopefully, the one example I linked here demonstrates that old mindsets don't die, they just pass on to the next generation in an institution. If you STILL don't accept reality, then do look up the Tillman incident. It should be an eye opener for you.
 
gemini104104 said:
Considering tRump is known to stoop very low to manipulate society to his deplorable advantage, I would not be surprised if tRump is faking a covid diagnosis to slither out of debating and get some sympathy sucker votes, considering his entire so-called presidency is fake and in violation of U.S. Constitutional law. I also don't trust his mob of so-called doctors who are standing there as devoted soldiers, losers and suckers for a lawlessly hacked in Putin puppet on a mission to destroy Democracy from within and all else of a civilized nature. Also what the heck does tRump need with more than one or two doctors instead of a mob of doctors who should be treating other more worthy patients. This instead of a fake president who called U.S. service personnel losers and suckers. tRump is also known to have others deceive society and do the lying for him, much like his quack private so-called doctor. I refuse to be a loser and a sucker at believing anything coming out of this tRump crap hole entirely but take with caution, suspicion and skepticism.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...re-donald-trump-fake-coronavirus-b750245.html
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:palm: :palm: :palm:
 
Taichiliberal said:
"Do YOU realize that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 years (at least) to dismantle various Civil Right laws protections, right?" Obviously by your snide reply, you're not. Here's one example for your education: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/us/politics/house-voting-rights.html

To recap: You believed that the military medical personnel at Walter Reed wouldn't go along with any political machinations of Trump and company regarding his Covid treatment. I merely pointed out the the error of that assumption, given our military's history in nefarious deeds against the it's citizens coupled with the President being the Commander in Chief of our military. Your response was the naive belief that 50 year old examples have no relevance to current events. Hopefully, the one example I linked here demonstrates that old mindsets don't die, they just pass on to the next generation in an institution. If you STILL don't accept reality, then do look up the Tillman incident. It should be an eye opener for you.
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Goal post moving. Yes, the GOP has moved to eliminate some Civil Rights laws protections. WTF does that have to do with your comment about the military experimenting on Black soldiers or nuking US citizens?
Taichiliberal said:
That's wishful thinking on your part.....remember, in this country you have a history of military doctors doing experiments on black soldiers and civilians....and exposing troops in general to nuke blasts as a "field test". There are other examples, but you get the picture.

And why shouldn't Pelosi and Schumer "make a big deal of it"? Given the near 4 years of bull horn from Fox News, Murdoch media, etc., one best keep dissent and critical thinking/investigation in the public eye.
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Taichiliberal said:
"Do YOU realize that the GOP has been pushing for the last 10 years (at least) to dismantle various Civil Right laws protections, right?" Obviously by your snide reply, you're not. Here's one example for your education: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/us/politics/house-voting-rights.html

To recap: You believed that the military medical personnel at Walter Reed wouldn't go along with any political machinations of Trump and company regarding his Covid treatment. I merely pointed out the the error of that assumption, given our military's history in nefarious deeds against the it's citizens coupled with the President being the Commander in Chief of our military. Your response was the naive belief that 50 year old examples have no relevance to current events. Hopefully, the one example I linked here demonstrates that old mindsets don't die, they just pass on to the next generation in an institution. If you STILL don't accept reality, then do look up the Tillman incident. It should be an eye opener for you.
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He forced Dr's to sign non-disclosure-agreements & last year as well~because he has nothing to hide.......:whome:

Trump asked Walter Reed doctors to sign nondisclosure agreements in 2019
At least two Walter Reed doctors who refused to sign nondisclosure agreements last year were not permitted to be involved in Trump’s care.
 
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