Military Deaths 1980 to 2006

Damocles

Damocles

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1980 ...........2,392
1981 ...........2,380
1982 ...........2,319
1983 ...........2.465
1984 ...........1,999
1985 ...........2,252
1986 ...........1,984
1987 ...........1,983
1988 ...........1,819
1989 ...........1,636
1990 ...........1,507
1991 ...........1,787
1992 ...........1,293
1993 ...........1,213
1994 ...........1,075
1995 ...........1,040
1996 .......... 974
1997 ........... 817
1998 ........... 827
1999 ........... 796
2000 ........... 758
2001 ........... 891
2002 ........... 999
2003 ........... 1,228
2004 ........... 1,874
2005 ........... 1,942
2006........... 1,858


http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/CASUALTY/Death_Rates1.pdf
 
More people die from car crashes and irritable bowel syndrome, than die in the iraq war.

The surge is working!

:cheer:
 
Cypress said:
More people die from car crashes and irritable bowel syndrome, than die in the iraq war.

The surge is working!

:cheer:
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So regardless of the numbers, only your context matters? Damocles had a point, a good one. He made it.
 
Watermark said:
What did people die from in 1985?

Are training excersises counted? Maybe it was simply because more people were in the military?
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Even if you count them per 100,000 the deaths remain relatively constant. Even during two wars.

Remember, those same accidents that killed those people are still happening...

This is total deaths. If you look at the page you will see the percentage due to accident, etc.
 
While "hostile action" deaths, the obviously more gruesome of the two, obviously pretty much hasn't done anything until 2003, whenever it jumped from 0% to 40%.

You're discounting the deaths of 3000 people due to combat. Shame on you, Damo.
 
Year Active Duty Reserve Deaths

1988 2,121,659 72,000 1,819

2004 1,411,287 66,000 1,874


Wow! The Iraq war isn't increasing our military death tolls much at all (only 55 more!)...IF you wantonly ignore the fact that there were more than 716,000 more troops in 1988!
 
Watermark said:
While "hostile action" deaths, the obviously more gruesome of the two, obviously pretty much hasn't done anything until 2003, whenever it jumped from 0% to 40%.

You're discounting the deaths of 3000 people due to combat. Shame on you, Damo.
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I'm not discounting anything, I simply gave you data.
 
Agnosticus_Caesar said:
Year Active Duty Reserve Deaths

1988 2,121,659 72,000 1,819

2004 1,411,287 66,000 1,874


Wow! The Iraq war isn't increasing our military death tolls much at all (only 55 more!)...IF you wantonly ignore the fact that there were more than 716,000 more troops in 1988!
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And only if you attempt to cherry-pick...

1985 ...........2,252
1986 ...........1,984
 
Of course, I gave nothing but empirical data, nothing about my opinion.

It is amazing how posting the count of deaths is simply assumed to be a review of an opinion. Especially one that I do not hold.
 
The fact is that you PURPOSELY LEFT OUT the other numbers, only the death tolls. That IMPLIES things that are not honest.

I didn't "cherry pick", as you accuse. I simply chose two years that had similar death tolls.

By the way, YOU cherry pick, when you choose 1985. Funny, I see this chart from the same website:

If you add Accidents, Illness, Homicides, and Self inflicted, you get (weirdly enough):

1,985 deaths out of 2,016 total deaths.

Do you seriously want to compare that to how many of the deaths in 2005 were of the same categories?

Face it, that was a lame attempt to make consequences The Iraq War look less than they are.
 
Agnosticus_Caesar said:
By The Way, your title is wrong. It should read "Active Duty Military Deaths"
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True. It should say that, but I wanted it to fit when looking at it on the search page.

The numbers do not imply anything. I gave the link, with all the data. It is interesting to watch the reactions, and the assumptions fly.

It is simply raw data with no opinion supplied.
 
Agnosticus_Caesar said:
The fact is that you PURPOSELY LEFT OUT the other numbers, only the death tolls. That IMPLIES things that are not honest.

I didn't "cherry pick", as you accuse. I simply chose two years that had similar death tolls.

By the way, YOU cherry pick, when you choose 1985. Funny, I see this chart from the same website:

If you add Accidents, Illness, Homicides, and Self inflicted, you get (weirdly enough):

1,985 deaths out of 2,016 total deaths.

Do you seriously want to compare that to how many of the deaths in 2005 were of the same categories?

Face it, that was a lame attempt to make consequences The Iraq War look less than they are.
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Yes, I simply did the same thing as you did. I agree, I cherry-picked... as, I believe, you did, it was the POINT of that post.
 
The original e-mail was sent to me by a friend who is former Army SF.

I checked the information, found it wrong, found the correct information and found it interesting. I posted it, (After e-mailing the corrected numbers to my friend). That is all.
 
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