Military Deaths 1980 to 2006

So regardless of the numbers, only your context matters? Damocles had a point, a good one. He made it.

I made fun of it because it didn't deserve a substantive response. I knew the numbers were a deceptive rightwing, pro-war way to spin the Iraq war as "no big deal":

Watermark: Yes, accident rates have dropped by about 1/3rd since 1980.

While "hostile action" deaths, the obviously more gruesome of the two, obviously pretty much hasn't done anything until 2003, whenever it jumped from 0% to 40%.

You're discounting the deaths of 3000 people due to combat. Shame on you, Damo.


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So regardless of the numbers, only your context matters? Damocles had a point, a good one. He made it.

US deaths in the Iraqi theatre have been amazingly low. Of course, this does not take into account catastrophic brain injuries, which as military doctors say, are higher than in any other conflict due to medical advances. Since you won’t have to take care of one of those guys, and neither will I, there’s no need to bring it up though, my apologies.
Damo’s point of a very low loss of life for the United States is true.

And as we know, the jaw-dropping number of Iraqi casualties, is a “number that doesn’t interest me (us) very much, frankly” as Colin Powell admitted. They’re kind of like dog lives. You know how one dog year is 7 human years…well, one Iraqi life is like 100 thousand US lives, so really, we’ve both lost the same amount of people. In fact, when you look at it like that, we’ve lost more!

Yep. A success all around. Onward Christian Soldier…we march, next stop; Iran. Let us not dilly dally.
 
US deaths in the Iraqi theatre have been amazingly low. Of course, this does not take into account catastrophic brain injuries, which as military doctors say, are higher than in any other conflict due to medical advances. Since you won’t have to take care of one of those guys, and neither will I, there’s no need to bring it up though, my apologies.
Damo’s point of a very low loss of life for the United States is true.

And as we know, the jaw-dropping number of Iraqi casualties, is a “number that doesn’t interest me (us) very much, frankly” as Colin Powell admitted. They’re kind of like dog lives. You know how one dog year is 7 human years…well, one Iraqi life is like 100 thousand US lives, so really, we’ve both lost the same amount of people. In fact, when you look at it like that, we’ve lost more!

Yep. A success all around. Onward Christian Soldier…we march, next stop; Iran. Let us not dilly dally.


No, no, no. You can't convince republicans of the folly of their policy by pointing out death and blood. These people only understand money.

Their iraq war will end up costing upwards of two trillion dollars possibly. More than vietnam and korea combined. How much of that money could have gone towards offsetting tax cuts for the Paris Hilton's of the world, and building bridges to nowhere?
 
Well, Bush has to solve his lower than normal death rate during a war. He's beginning to feel inadequate.

If you count Iraqi dead, he doesn’t have a lower than normal death rate Damo. Human beings are not disposable regardless of where they are born. Every one of those loses was a human life. We don’t keep track of those numbers. We have not bothered to keep track. This, in the “culture of life”. I wish I could laugh.
 
If you count Iraqi dead, he doesn’t have a lower than normal death rate Damo. Human beings are not disposable regardless of where they are born. Every one of those loses was a human life. We don’t keep track of those numbers. We have not bothered to keep track. This, in the “culture of life”. I wish I could laugh.
You forget that the accounting goes this way...

Iraqi dead = Good (They were all bad guys anyway, yeah even the ones the 'liberal media' calls 'innocent'.)

US Military dead = Bad, if above a certain level. Bush feels inadequate because he hasn't reached that limit yet....

/sarcasm
 
My conclusion from these numbers is that Clinton did wonders to reduce the number of accidents in the military.

Seriously wtf. Went from 60ish% to 35ish% in a 5-6 year span.
 
My conclusion from these numbers is that Clinton did wonders to reduce the number of accidents in the military.

Seriously wtf. Went from 60ish% to 35ish% in a 5-6 year span.
What's messed up is that accidents went down with Bush too....
 
Well if a larger part of the mililtary is in combat, the deaths are combat related even if accidents.

I am pretty sure not many of them get blown up on purpose.
 
My conclusion from these numbers is that Clinton did wonders to reduce the number of accidents in the military.

Seriously wtf. Went from 60ish% to 35ish% in a 5-6 year span.


The number of accidents tends to go down by 35%, when you cut the size of the military from its cold war height, by 35%.

lol

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Fair enough. Brain fart, didn't even think of that.

Don't listen to that idiot. You are correct in stating that it was a dramatic decrease in the percentages. The size of the military does not factor in. That is why they use percentages. Out of the deaths in the military it went from about 70% of deaths due to accident to about 26% under Clinton in 2000. They use percentages so that you can compare one year to the next (for the most part). Obviously the percentage will tend to decrease in times of war because a greater percentage die from the war itself.

Increased safety measures and better training have led to the lower percentages.
 
sf, calm down. No need to sling insults.

Warren said the NUMBER of accidents went down. I took him at his word, I'm not interested in looking at the link. Warren didn't say the RATE of accidents went down. At least, that's the way I remember reading it.
 
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