minnesota statewide smoking ban

Butt why not tax or ban all smokeable tobacco products the same ?
Tax on "little cigars" is almost non existant...
 
Not true.............

Damocles said:
Nah, he got into it with the two board Buddhists over Burma. He thinks I can't have an opinion unless I go there and smell the carnage.
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You always express your opinion...as do I...This does not mean I think you are not entitled to yours!:tongout:
 
Battleborne said:
You always express your opinion...as do I...This does not mean I think you are not entitled to yours!:tongout:
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I would say that if you hadn't said (paraphrasing), "If you go there and do this, THEN we can talk..."

Which is a statement on how my opinion won't count unless I do as you say. It is rubbish, no matter which way you go about it.
 
It was a suggestion..not a order...seaman 1st class/PO...

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Damocles said:
I would say that if you hadn't said (paraphrasing), "If you go there and do this, THEN we can talk..."

Which is a statement on how my opinion won't count unless I do as you say. It is rubbish, no matter which way you go about it.
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:cof1: You are way to sensitive about Buddhist issues! I will rephrase it then...'We Can Do Lunch' hows that?
 
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Damocles said:
People eating them around children has been proven to be harmful. You didn't read the article and then pretended that you had.

I will post this particular paragraph again:



I will AGAIN bold the part that speaks directly agains what you just said. And then ask you to make a more honest post about it instead of pretending that the part that was inconvenient to your argument didn't exist.

Allergies can be severe and dangerous to others, should we make laws against your consumption, in public, of any product that may cause an allergic reaction to another? And more specifically, shall we make it illegal for you to cook any product that may cause an allergic reaction in another by the airborne particles?

Should you be allowed to boil the potatoes that quite literally take my breath away? (Thank all the little gods for strong anti-allergy medications and epinephrine.)
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I didn't omit anything and AGAIN, you keep making my point.

Peanuts have been proven to be harmful .. and they did what?

They limited exposure to peanuts EXACTLY as they are doing with cigarettes.

Now I ask you to be honest and rethink what you cited and said. You make my point.
 
blackascoal said:
I didn't omit anything and AGAIN, you keep making my point.

Peanuts have been proven to be harmful .. and they did what?

They limited exposure to peanuts EXACTLY as they are doing with cigarettes.

Now I ask you to be honest and rethink what you cited and said. You make my point.
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Are you saying they have made a law against you cooking something with peanuts in it because you may harm another?

They did not limit them "exactly" the way they have with cigarettes, that is intellectually dishonest. There is no laws against peanuts, while they can actively cause death just by being there. There is no laws against you using them in a recipe, even though just the airborne particles can cause IMMEDIATE harm, not some vague "may".

Now I would ask you to be honest and rethink what you posted, as you pretended that peanuts cannot cause harm if the kids are not eating them, directly against what the article stated.

And I asked a direct question. Since peanuts can be shown to cause harm, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE NOT EATING THEM, do you think there should be a law against their use in your recipes?

And just in case you want to pretend you didn't say it, I will again quote your statement:

blackascoal said:
The evidence you cite about peanuts makes my point. Children eating them has been deemed to be harmful to them, thus they've restricted childrens access to peanuts .. but you eating a peanut poses no danger to children who are not eating them. They've reacted to medical evidence, no different than with smoking.

There is a common sense element to this which recognizes that food is essential, smoking is not.
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And bold the part where you attempted to mislead and stated that there is no danger to them if they are not eating them.

Crap, in that article it had a girl that was effected, seriously so, simply by the presense of peanut oil in something OTHER PEOPLE were eating, not what she was. Imagine if they had fed her the stuff.

So, one more time. Should we make the consumption of peanuts illegal because they may effect the health of children?
 
i guess i would be more then happy to give up my cigs if they will give up the tax revenue they recive from em...

the reason i think this ban is stupid is just that, they go too all these langhts to make a point...

ya want me to quit fine, but please dont make it a bigger issue then it has to be.

your taking away the rights of certin people... it singling out people, just make it illeagle.
 
hell i am alergic to some perfmes, makes my eyes water so bad i cant see, not to mention the increadible headace i get, lets ban that in public places
 
I can't believe how children use to be forced to enter bars in MN where there was smoking. Good thing we banned it in private places no one is forced to be in. Good work MN Govt. Glad you are working on the important stuff.
 
Obfuscate said:
I can't believe how children use to be forced to enter bars in MN where there was smoking. Good thing we banned it in private places no one is forced to be in. Good work MN Govt. Glad you are working on the important stuff.
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well you please explain how people are forced into a smoking enviroment ?
 
bob said:
hell i am alergic to some perfmes, makes my eyes water so bad i cant see, not to mention the increadible headace i get, lets ban that in public places
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Same here, and this is happening more and more often. There are hospitals that ban any sort of scented products (Sinai in NY was the first, I think). Few if any health care professionals are allowed to wear any sort of scented products because of the negative effects on so many patients.

I simply avoid situations where I am likely to encounter scents. It can be awkward, and limiting, but it's my only recourse.
 
Thorn said:
Same here, and this is happening more and more often. There are hospitals that ban any sort of scented products (Sinai in NY was the first, I think). Few if any health care professionals are allowed to wear any sort of scented products because of the negative effects on so many patients.

I simply avoid situations where I am likely to encounter scents. It can be awkward, and limiting, but it's my only recourse.
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i too avoid it if i can, its hard to at work and a few other places though.

i remember walking through an air port and had to walk by a perfume store, they almost wouldnt let me on the plain just because of how was suffering from an alergic reaction.
 
True...............

uscitizen said:
Ahh one persons stink is another persons bouquet....
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I love the smell of Napalm in the morning along with a quite scent of a beauiful woman...perfum is alluring if used in the right percentage...sure don't like the smell of BO though...ewww!
 
uscitizen said:
Ahh one persons stink is another persons bouquet....
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It has nothing to do with liking or not liking the smell; what bob and I both seem to experience (and so do thousands of others, apparently) is a toxic reaction to one of the ingredients in perfume. I'm sure that this is exacerbated by the fact that many users of scented products apparently suffer from an impaired sense of smell themselves, and they just load the stuff on.

One of the worst experiences I've had was when we were travelling to a race and stayed over at a Holiday Inn Express. They pumped rose-scented air freshener into the air conditioning system in a hermetically sealed building. We couldn't open the windows and I developed a crushing headache before just going out and bedding down in the gooseneck of the car trailer. I'm not sure if HIE has discontinued that practice or not. I wrote to them; depends if they've received enough negative feedback or not. Needless to say we haven't stayed at one of their facilities again.
 
Most reactions to perfume...........

are psycho -symatic...very few are actual reactions based on allergic symptoms!
 
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its not all perfumes for me, but most of just kill me...

if you have ever had a migrane headace, thats what its like, as soon as it sets in you cant do anything besides pay attention to the reaction
 
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