More Bad News for the (R)s

[Dutch Uncle]

Words to keep in mind, now more than ever, folks:

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE AN OPPONENT!

Let's not celebrate before crossing the goal line.

While I agree on both points, the real danger is complacency among Democrats, not Trump being able to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

Get a good turnout in enough states and it's a win.

Trump's problem is the same as Hillary's in 2016; too many people on his own side dislike him. Rather than vote for Biden, they'll just stay home on election or vote Third Party.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Will trump end up like Mussolini ?

One can dream, but unlikely.

If it's any comfort, dying is easy. Being trapped in his own body with a full blown case of delusional disorder, paranoia and dementia would be a living hell. Letting him live like that for 10-15 years would be Karmic.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I think we have given too much power to the office of President.

Agreed. Congress ceded that power and the Left Wing states gave too much power to the Feds, meaning Congress. It's very difficult to get back power that was freely given away.

My humble recommendation is that every time someone thinks about giving a certain power to the Feds they should consider WWTD? "What would Trump do?" How would someone like Trump use that power? If the answer isn't 100% satisfactory, then best to give up the idea.

 

[jacksonsprat22]

Agreed. Congress ceded that power and the Left Wing states gave too much power to the Feds, meaning Congress.

Can you give an example?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I wouldn't gloat. Right now, the largest "party" affiliation in the US is "Independent / No party preference" at about 40%. Democrats make up 30% of the voters, and Republicans about 25%.

That says neither "major" party (both of which are actually minority parties now) are not very popular with voters at large. Given that both are losing strength, says that they should be worried about their increasing irrelevance.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Can you give an example?

This is an interesting one:
https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...sed-congress-self-inflicted-weaknesses-101732
...This crisis has been a long time coming. Abraham Lincoln used his wartime authority to call out a 75,000-person militia, close post offices to perceived traitors, spend millions of dollars without congressional appropriation and change the legal status of enslaved African Americans in Confederate states by executive order, a move known as the Emancipation Proclamation. On his first day in office, President Franklin D. Roosevelt began regulating the economy by declaring a “bank holiday” to prevent runs on cash deposits. With the New Deal, Congress for the first time delegated massive swaths of legislative authority to regulatory agencies housed within FDR’s executive branch. Harry Truman used his presidency to enlarge the national security apparatus. And the pace of the erosion has again picked up in the past two decades, beginning with post-9/11 concessions and continuing through the Obama years.

But a quarter-century of intensifying partisanship and party-first thinking has brought us to a moment of historic peril in which presidential overreach and congressional deference have combined in ways that seem to affect almost every aspect of the interrelationship of the legislative and executive branches...

 

[jacksonsprat22]

This is an interesting one:
https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...sed-congress-self-inflicted-weaknesses-101732
...This crisis has been a long time coming. Abraham Lincoln used his wartime authority to call out a 75,000-person militia, close post offices to perceived traitors, spend millions of dollars without congressional appropriation and change the legal status of enslaved African Americans in Confederate states by executive order, a move known as the Emancipation Proclamation. On his first day in office, President Franklin D. Roosevelt began regulating the economy by declaring a “bank holiday” to prevent runs on cash deposits. With the New Deal, Congress for the first time delegated massive swaths of legislative authority to regulatory agencies housed within FDR’s executive branch. Harry Truman used his presidency to enlarge the national security apparatus. And the pace of the erosion has again picked up in the past two decades, beginning with post-9/11 concessions and continuing through the Obama years.

But a quarter-century of intensifying partisanship and party-first thinking has brought us to a moment of historic peril in which presidential overreach and congressional deference have combined in ways that seem to affect almost every aspect of the interrelationship of the legislative and executive branches...

Okay. But weren't you blaming leftists?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Okay. But weren't you blaming leftists?

No. Why do you always jump to such conclusions? This isn't the first time. You should know that there are more different opinions than just full-blown Left Wing Loony and full-blown Right Wing Nut Job. Lots of room in between for common sense, civic duty and honesty.

 

[jacksonsprat22]

No. Why do you always jump to such conclusions? This isn't the first time. You should know that there are more different opinions than just full-blown Left Wing Loony and full-blown Right Wing Nut Job. Lots of room in between for common sense, civic duty and honesty.

Bye.

 

[StoneByStone]

I wouldn't gloat. Right now, the largest "party" affiliation in the US is "Independent / No party preference" at about 40%. Democrats make up 30% of the voters, and Republicans about 25%.

That says neither "major" party (both of which are actually minority parties now) are not very popular with voters at large. Given that both are losing strength, says that they should be worried about their increasing irrelevance.

That's even better news.

 

[Ross Dolan]

While I agree on both points, the real danger is complacency among Democrats, not Trump being able to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

Get a good turnout in enough states and it's a win.

Trump's problem is the same as Hillary's in 2016; too many people on his own side dislike him. Rather than vote for Biden, they'll just stay home on election or vote Third Party.

Agreed!

Although some who realize what a disaster he is for America may still come out and vote for him. The fanatics are nuts.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Agreed!

Although some who realize what a disaster he is for America may still come out and vote for him. The fanatics are nuts.

Agreed there are people nutty enough to vote for Trump, Hillary or whomever simply in hopes they'll destroy America, but those kinds of nuts are very rare. Most people vote altruistically, as indicated by the studies below, but self-interest there there too. As the studies indicate, people who are too self-interested don't vote at all.

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2008/06/vote
Research by Richard Jankowski, PhD, chair of the political science department at State University of New York, Fredonia, supports the role of altruism in voting. Looking back at questions posed in the American National Election Study's 1995 pilot study, Jankowski found that respondents who agreed with altruistic statements were more likely to have voted in 1994 elections.

"I found very strong evidence that people who vote tend to be highly altruistic, and people who don't vote tend to be much more self-interested," says Jankowski, who published his findings in Rationality and Society (Vol. 19, No. 1).

Altruism's role in voting is being further examined by James Fowler, PhD, a University of California, San Diego, political scientist who studies voting through the lens of the "dictator game." In the game, Player 1 is given a sum of money, and told that he or she can divide up the money with Player 2, or keep all of it for themselves. They're also told that Player 2 won't learn their identities. In theory, if people are solely motivated by self-interest, they will keep all the money. But only about a quarter of the players do that, the researchers found. About half share some of the money and nearly a quarter split it evenly with the unknown player, Fowler says.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Bye.

Buh-Bye, you silly goose.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I wouldn't gloat. Right now, the largest "party" affiliation in the US is "Independent / No party preference" at about 40%. Democrats make up 30% of the voters, and Republicans about 25%.

That says neither "major" party (both of which are actually minority parties now) are not very popular with voters at large. Given that both are losing strength, says that they should be worried about their increasing irrelevance.

Agreed, which means Trump's base is about 25% and Biden's is about 30%. Independents will pick the President from the two idiots gentlemen on the ballot. Since both parties are increasingly unpopular with Independents, their best voting strategy is to always vote for the Challenger in order to keep both parties off balance.

 

[Phantasmal]

A shift in political power in this country is way over due.

I’ve always preferred a balance, the Republican Party has lost its identity. It is my hope that the old guards that don’t want to compromise are voted out in both parties and we return to a system that works.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Since January, Americans' party preferences have shifted dramatically in the Democratic Party's direction. What had been a two-percentage-point Republican advantage in U.S. party identification and leaning has become an 11-point Democratic advantage, with more of that movement reflecting a loss in Republican identification and leaning (down eight points) than a gain in Democratic identification and leaning (up five points).

...

The party last held an advantage of 10 points or more in January 2019 (51% to 39%), when Democrats were installed as the majority party in the House of Representatives after their success in the 2018 midterm elections. Democrats and Democratic leaners also outnumbered Republicans and Republican leaners by 10 points or more in several months in 2018, including in October (51% to 41%) just before those elections.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/315734/party-preferences-swung-sharply-toward-democrats.aspx

no. this is fake news. the polling errors which left so many dems surprised in 2016, are still happening.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

From the ad:

“Violent crime exploding. Innocent children fatally shot,” the narrator said, with recent news stories cited on the bottom of the screen."

Really? #TRE45ON did absolutely NOTHING about school massacres, yet now we're supposed to believe that he gives a shit about "innocent children fatally shot"? Bwahahahahaha! His supporters are just that stupid and gullible, but the rest of us are not.

I watched the whole clip, btw. It was all bashing Biden, but nothing about what the Toadstool can do to fix all these ongoing problems. Problems which, as the article points out, are happening now, on his watch.

vote out dem mayors and governors capitulating to mob idiocy.

dems are rocking the vote, against themselves.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,



I know several people who have changed their party affiliation so they could vote for Dems in the primaries.

no you don't.

 

[Ross Dolan]

no. this is fake news. the polling errors which left so many dems surprised in 2016, are still happening.

What polling errors.

The main polls hit the numbers right on the head.

Clinton was polled to win by 2 percentage points...and she did. The Electoral College gave the election to Trump...which is fair. I have no problem with that.

But to suggest that the polls were wrong is nuts.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

What polling errors.

The main polls hit the numbers right on the head.

Clinton was polled to win by 2 percentage points...and she did. The Electoral College gave the election to Trump...which is fair. I have no problem with that.

But to suggest that the polls were wrong is nuts.

obviously they were wrong.