Liberty
Libertarian Minded
Don't the founders keepers support federal laws that put people who haven't victimized anybody through the legal system? All paid for by people such as me who aren't willing to pay for it?
Motts growing nightmare
- Thread starter SmarterthanYou
- Start date
Don't the founders keepers support federal laws that put people who haven't victimized anybody through the legal system? All paid for by people such as me who aren't willing to pay for it?
Noah Gardner
Banned
Founders’ Keepers is an organization by, of and for “we the people.” Without exaggeration, the history of America, the greatest country this planet has ever known, is at risk. What history that isn’t being rewritten or erased by those in Washington is being forgotten by our children and grandchildren.
At Founders’ Keepers, the mission is a simple but profoundly important one: to Remember.
Some of regional leaders commit to memory the entire works of a given Founding Father…what they wrote, when they wrote it, and why…how they lived and dressed…their habits and their families…the ordinary lives of these extraordinary Americans.
Others assist in that work, and a greater number still work in any way they can to help preserve and restore this nation to her former greatness.
As one member likes to put it…”We remember how the country was founded. You never know, we might have to do it again someday."
At Founders’ Keepers, the mission is a simple but profoundly important one: to Remember.
Some of regional leaders commit to memory the entire works of a given Founding Father…what they wrote, when they wrote it, and why…how they lived and dressed…their habits and their families…the ordinary lives of these extraordinary Americans.
Others assist in that work, and a greater number still work in any way they can to help preserve and restore this nation to her former greatness.
As one member likes to put it…”We remember how the country was founded. You never know, we might have to do it again someday."
Slavery, genocide and aggression against native Americans, and the second class status of women and non-property owners?
That’s a weird thing to want to “go back” to. Good luck, Founders Keepers!
Noah Gardner
Banned
I've got some rules, too, and rule number one is, don't tease the panther.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
So, go fuck up some other country, liberals. Surely there's a small dystopia out there looking for its next Kim Jung-Il...
Canceled.LTroll.22
Banned
We oppose the reactionary policies of the U.S. government but we do not oppose the American people. We want to have many good friends in the United States.
Noah Gardner
Banned
If we don’t face the truth right now, we’ll be dead in five years, this country can’t survive.
Reportedly, you can be free in Rontard...umm, I mean Paulville, Texas.
Paulville: the town where rightwingers will be free
At last, some cheering news for downhearted fans of Ron Paul, the libertarian Republican now certain to fail, by some distance, to secure his party's presidential nomination. This month has seen the first meeting of the shareholders in a fledgling community development planned in rural Texas, to be comprised exclusively of Paul's supporters. It is to be called Paulville.
The gated settlement will house freedom-loving folk, living unbound by the shackles of planning regulations. Its founders hope that when complete, it will inspire further Paulvilles around America and, in their own words, "literally change the world, one community at a time".
The Hudspeth County project has attracted derision across the US, though, with the political gossip website Wonkette.com uncharitably dubbing it "Paultard City". And even at this early stage, it appears that ideological compromises might have to be made. Necessity dictates that the community will function on a cooperative basis, albeit with the ability for households to opt out. The idea is that the option not to access communal utilities, such as electricity, will ensure that its founding individualist principles remain unsullied.
Paulville's supporters believe that politically like-minded individuals can form a thriving community, detached from a busybody state. But historical precedents do not augur well. Some 115 years ago, a group of disillusioned Australians set sail for South America, intent on toiling their way to a new society, in this case, free from avaricious capitalism. Colonia Nueva Australia was duly established in darkest Paraguay. Sadly, rows over leadership and booze quickly sealed the cooperative's fate.
Not all idealistic communities have failed. The Findhorn Foundation, a settlement in the north-east of Scotland, has flourished. Built on spiritual principles and ideas of environmental sustainability, it has become a model for eco-villages around the world.
Though they might have little in common philosophically, advocates of Paulville and Findhorn share the desire to create a template for another world. Jonathan Dawson, an educator based at Findhorn, doesn't see much point to inward-facing micro-communities and talks about "providing an example" to others. "It's not useful to retreat just for the sake of it," he says.
At present the online chatter amongst prospective Paulville residents is of septic-tank permits. But when residents are settled into their new homes, it will surely turn to the right to wield semi-automatic weapons and the abolition of income tax.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/14/usa/print
Freeeeeeedom!!!
Noah Gardner
Banned
Glenn Beck has just published his number one bestselling book The Overton Window, which is a story of America in a time much like today where the people are confused, with a government in crisis and the rise of the Founders Keepers, which leads to a battle and a civil war, and life is upside-down planetwide.
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
Sounds good.
I wonder when the Great Leader is going to pull the plug on Beck. Beck has really shown a lot of bad things about the Great Leader.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Noah Gardner
Banned
If you, the American people, are forced to once again fight for your liberty in another American Revolution, you will not be alone.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
We won't have to. Even the press is starting to turn on The Obama now that his popularity is down in the 40's.
Noah Gardner
Banned
Did you notice all the lamestream media whores in bed with the One look like Helen Thomas?
There may come a time in the very near future when we will all wake up one morning and find that elections are been suspended and martial law declared.
If that happens constitutionally based groups will most certainly be declared “enemies of the state”.
The only chance we will have of saving our beloved republic are people inside the system. In any case, keep spreading the word while you can. Perhaps enough people will heed the call and wake up to make a difference.
There may come a time in the very near future when we will all wake up one morning and find that elections are been suspended and martial law declared.
If that happens constitutionally based groups will most certainly be declared “enemies of the state”.
The only chance we will have of saving our beloved republic are people inside the system. In any case, keep spreading the word while you can. Perhaps enough people will heed the call and wake up to make a difference.
Your TEA movement? The TEA movement is not libertarian any more than it is republican. The truth is it's just people of any stripe or background fed up with agendas in government that take more of our money while growing government!
Sarah Palin is a voice, Ron Paul is a voice...but they and their politics are NOT the TEA party, but merely a part of it.
In fact it was Wall Street people who started the movement- [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_protests"]Tea Party protests - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Ambox_scales.svg" class="image"><img alt="Ambox scales.svg" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Ambox_scales.svg/40px-Ambox_scales.svg.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/5/5c/Ambox_scales.svg/40px-Ambox_scales.svg.png[/ame]
"On January 19, 2009, Graham Makohoniuk, a part-time trader and a member of Ticker Forum, posted a casual invitation on the market-ticker.org forums to "Mail a tea bag to congress and to senate". The idea quickly caught on with others on the forum, some of whom reported being attracted to the inexpensive, easy way to reach "everyone that voted for the bailout."
Forum moderator, Stephanie Jasky helped organize the group and worked to "get it to go viral. Jasky is also the founder and director of FedUpUSA - a fiscally conservative, non-partisan activist group whose members describe themselves as "a group of investors" who sprung out of the market-ticker.org forums. The group had previously held DC protests in 2008. On January 19, 2009, Jasky had posted a formal invitation "to a commemorative tea party. She suggested they all send tea bags on the same day (February 1, 2009) in a coordinated effort.
The founder of market-ticker.org, Karl Denninger (stock trader and former CEO), published his own write-up on the proposed protest, titled "Tea Party February 1st?," which was posted in direct response to President Obama's inauguration occurring on the same day, and railed against the bailouts, the US national debt and "the fraud and abuse in our banking and financial system" which included the predatory lending practices currently at the center of the home mortgage foreclosure crisis. Karl Denninger, who helped form FedUpUSA in the wake of the March 2008 Federal Reserve bail out of Bear Sterns, had been a guest on both Glenn Beck and CNBC Reports. By February 1, the idea had spread among conservative and libertarian-oriented blogs, forums, websites and through a viral email campaign.
On February 11, talk radio host and Fox Business Network personality Dave Ramsey appeared on Fox and Friends, waving tea bags and saying "It's time for a Tea Party. He was on the show criticizing the newly confirmed Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner, who that morning had outlined his plan to use the $300 billion or so dollars remaining in the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) funds. He intended to use $50 billion for foreclosure mitigation and use the rest to help fund private investors to buy toxic assets from banks
Last edited:
apple0154
MEOW
“You know taking care of yourself without accepting help will make you feel real good, and give you a better idea of what life as a Libertarian is like.”
The problem is, in many cases, it doesn’t make the person feel good. It makes them bitter. It’s one thing to refuse help and quite another to be refused help. It’s fine to make it on ones own but not at the expense of refusing to help others because one refused help themselves.
No cliché says it better than “my hard earned money”. Considering we trade (exchange money) among ourselves somebody must be making easy earned money. When people b1tch about the price of goods they must believe someone is making easy earned money. Where are those folks making the “easy earned money”?
Almost everyone agrees the family unit is beneficial to society, however, many who hold that belief do not want society run in a similar fashion. Why are there such strong objections to working together and helping each other?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
please note that I did not say MY TEA movement, I said OUR TEA movement. It belongs to those of us who are, as you have said, are comprised of numerous people with alot of different views but common themes.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Hey, what's your reaction to the World Cup so far?!?
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Reportedly, you can be free in Rontard...umm, I mean Paulville, Texas.
God, it would be such a better, more progressive country, if freedom didn't suck so much and promote so much regression, huh?!!?