Musk Is Traitor Trash on H1B Issue

I am against what H-1B's have become. The basic idea is good, but it has become a way for rich people to import slave labor.
no the basic idea is bad.

it was conceived with this purpose in mind.

so you're against them.

you're more America first that Elon Musk.

Fuck Elon musk.

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And it is not like mar-a-lardo is some sort of research facility. These people cleaned toilets. We need people who clean toilets, but if you pay enough, we have them. The only reason trump imported them was he wanted to pay them below minimum wage.

It is a disgrace.

Worse yet, he stole and stored top secret information in with the basically illegal aliens.
so why do you not believe in border enforcement?

it's the exact same arguments.
 
These two things are not mutually exclusive. One can be both Indian and top talent inclusively. H1Bs are designed to bring folks here to do jobs for which we do not have enough trained or educated folks. Stealing other nation's top talent is a good thing.
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Radically change the Eweniversity to highly paid professional training. Just because no Influencer suggests this common-sense proposal means that we should quit depending on what we are told to think. Under this indentured-servitude system, cow-ledge means nothing more than buying a job, which puts inferior minds in superior positions. Sacrifice has no merit; it is nothing but brown-nosing by sheepish tyranny-lovers.

The Big Lie is something we'd automatically reject if we weren't bombarded with propaganda about unpaid education: "What? You want us to go years without a job, living like teenagers who are afraid to grow up, just to get one of the jobs you think you own? What are you trying to pull? We create your wealth for you, so the talented should be the only ones making demands."
 
Musk Is Trator Trash on H1B Issue.



Right-wingers turn on Elon Musk over his latest immigration stance​

‘The mask is off.’​

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Elon Musk over his own tweet 'No, we need more like double that number yesterday! The number of people who are super talented engineers ... motivated in the USA is far too low. Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM... championship, you need to recruit top talent who.... enables the whole team to win.''No, we need more like double that number yesterday! The number of people who are super talented engineers ... motivated in the USA is far too low. Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM... championship, you need to recruit top talent who.... enables the whole team to win.'

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Billionaire Elon Musk is coming under fire from some right-wingers online over comments he made in support of H-1B visas, non-immigrant visas that allow employers to hire highly skilled foreign workers.

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This visa program was established in 1991. Congress sets annual limits on the number of visas that will be issued. It’s currently set at 65,000.

Companies including Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and IBM are among those that employ thousands of foreign workers with H-1B visas.

Musk’s Tesla was one of the leading employers for foreign-born engineers and scientists in FY 2024, receiving 742 approved H-1B petitions—up from 328 in FY 2023 and 337 in FY 2022, according to Forbes.

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Musk, who was born in South Africa, received an H-1B visa.

So while it might not be surprising that Musk is a fan of the visa program, his views diverge from many right-wingers, prompting online drama.

“The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low,” Musk wrote on Wednesday. “Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be. That enables the whole TEAM to win.”

Pressed by one commenter about denying “real Americans that opportunity by bringing foreigners here,” Musk countered that the user’s “understanding of the situation is upside-down and backwards.”

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“OF COURSE my companies and I would prefer to hire Americans and we DO, as that is MUCH easier than going through the incredibly painful and slow work visa process,” Musk said. “HOWEVER, there is a dire shortage of extremely talented and motivated engineers in America.”

“This is not about handing out opportunities from some magical hat. You don’t get it,” he continued. “This is blindingly obvious when looking at NBA teams, as the physical differences are so obvious to see. However, the MENTAL differences between humans are FAR bigger than the physical differences!!”

Musk’s comments in support of hiring foreign workers quickly sparked backlash from conservatives. Much of the commentary included presumptions about the race of the foreign workers to which Musk referred.

“We don’t want or need to turn this country into India,” reads one viral response to Musk’s post.

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“America is not your sports team. It’s my home,” countered someone else.

“I used to have some faith in Elon, but after this post I’m done. The mask is off,” slammed one right-wing account. “Elon supports erasing the cultural and ethnic identity of America to help grow his bank account. He’s parasitic and destructive.”

“So why not try to get people from Europe?” replied another account. “Engineers here in northern Europe earn HALF of what US engineers do, yet you keep importing Indians instead.”

The discourse around H-1B visas had been brewing online since entrepreneur Sriram Krishnan was picked to serve as a senior policy adviser on artificial intelligence in the incoming Trump administration, prompting a wave of racist backlash.

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“Did any of yall vote for this Indian to run America?” swiped one critic on Tuesday.

Far-right influencer Laura Loomer called the appointment “deeply disturbing,” pointing to a post from Krishnan calling for country-based immigration caps to be gone.

In another post responding to Musk agreeing with Krishnan, Loomer blasted, “How does it make sense to keep importing infinite foreign wage slaves who will further plummet the pay for STEM jobs in the US?”


You voted for him, dumbass.

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When did H1B visas become a bad thing? Legal ways of migrating here has been good even when Trump talks about them... and taking the top talent from other nations is not bad for America.
When trump uses them to clean toilets, we have to wonder if they are really the "top talent." I guess we would have to inspect the toilets to be 100% sure, but I am almost completely sure that there is no magical way to clean a toilet that makes them "top talent."
 
When did H1B visas become a bad thing? Legal ways of migrating here has been good even when Trump talks about them... and taking the top talent from other nations is not bad for America.
When trump uses them to clean toilets, we have to wonder if they are really the "top talent." I guess we would have to inspect the toilets to be 100% sure, but I am almost completely sure that there is no magical way to clean a toilet that makes them "top talent."
Trump has been bitching about non-white immigrants since his first Presidency. Now, all of a sudden, he's for it. What changed?

Agreed. Those H1Bs will soon be for "top talent" in jobs Americans are either unqualified for or won't take....such as cleaning the toilets at Mar-a-Lago.
 
When did H1B visas become a bad thing? Legal ways of migrating here has been good even when Trump talks about them... and taking the top talent from other nations is not bad for America.
they've always been bad.

trump admitted early on he used them, but that they are bad for workers and should not exist.
 
When trump uses them to clean toilets, we have to wonder if they are really the "top talent." I guess we would have to inspect the toilets to be 100% sure, but I am almost completely sure that there is no magical way to clean a toilet that makes them "top talent."

Have you ever cleaned a toilet?
 
It's not like a legal immigrant took your job, is it?
If a poor foreigner, without any training, and not knowing the language or customs of the USA, can do your job better than you can, you are shit at your job.

Meanwhile, legal immigrants are often highly educated, and can compete with the best jobs. We were trying to get a legal immigrant to have my job, but could not get clearance for it.
 
Have you ever cleaned a toilet?
Yes. I tried to avoid jobs where you were both a bouncer, and a cleaner, but there were times I took them.

There was one bouncer job where the owner wanted me to make money off tips. At first I thought he was offering the door money(money people pay to get into the bar), but he considered that his. He thought people I was kicking out of the bar might tip me on the way out.

Anyway, are you saying you never cleaned a toilet?
 
I'm not.

Since when do you care about America's domestic youth?

If they wanted to work for the wages on offer and they were qualified, they would.
companies seek out h1bs first.

they seek to manipulate the market with special government favors rather than pay americans.

they're fascist, not free trade.

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