My FB post on the war


This is a really interesting translation of an article published on a Russian news agency site. It confirms what a lot of people smarter than those posting here suspected; this has little to do with NATO and much to do with Putin's old KGB delusions and his fury over the collapse of the soviet union.
your analysis stinks

3. The main theme is that the "operation" is a defeat for the West's project to defeat Russia.
 
The Internet Research Agency (IRA; Russian: Агентство интернет-исследований translit: Agentstvo Internet-Issledovaniy), also known as Glavset[1] and known in Russian Internet slang as the Trolls from Olgino, is a Russian company engaged in online influence operations on behalf of Russian business and political interests.[2] It is linked to Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin and based in Saint Petersburg, Russia.

The January 2017 report issued by the United States Intelligence Community – Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections – described the Agency as a troll farm: "The likely financier of the so-called Internet Research Agency of professional trolls located in Saint Petersburg is a close ally of [Vladimir] Putin with ties to Russian intelligence," commenting that "they previously were devoted to supporting Russian actions in Ukraine—[and] started to advocate for President-elect Trump as early as December 2015."

The agency has employed fake accounts registered on major social networking sites,[3] discussion boards, online newspaper sites, and video hosting services to promote the Kremlin's interests in domestic and foreign policy including Ukraine and the Middle East as well as attempting to influence the 2016 United States presidential election. More than 1,000 employees reportedly worked in a single building of the agency in 2015.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

Discussion boards...so then I'm wrong, they could definitely be here. Well, I'm not surprised to find out that evince was right
 
that's why it's a "defacto" state and we dont have boots.
It doesnt matter much now, but it did leading up to this clusterfuck,

Ukraine functions best for east and west as a neutral, or at least a buffer state.
We turned it into a "defacto" NATO outpost - and we told Russia to fuck off when they complained about it

We should have let them join. You are blaming the USA because we protected them, shameful on your part. Keep siding with Putin.
 
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We should have let them join. You are blaming the USA because we protected them, shameful on your part. Keep siding with Putin.

You can join the brave Ukrainians, Brad**.


It's not as though you have a heavy caseload, is it?
 
neither one of us knows the exact capabilities of America's current MBT's if the US has to step-in and save Europe from further Soviet expansion we might find out

The Pentagon has been busy training the troops on using gender pronouns appropriately lately, haven't they?
 
Trump would have left NATO and allowed Ukraine to be picked apart by his butt buddy Putin. Trump was 100 percent wrong, as usual. Biden has pulled NATO together. NATO was designed as a deterrent to Russian expansion. It is working.,no thanks to Trump. The members are providing aid to Ukraine.
 
Anatta is a Russian asset who uses JPP to test out the propaganda that he disseminates across broader social media.
 
your analysis stinks

You're a fucking liar and propagandist who uses Active Measures on JPP in order to sow conflict and tear the country apart.

In 2018, it was #Walkaway and #Blexit.

In 2019, it was #NoCollusion

In 2020, it was "unsolicited mail in ballots"

In 2021, it was "Storm the Bastille" and "Natural immunity".

In 2022, it's defending and justifying the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Everything always comes back to Russia with you.

ALWAYS.
 
it's complicated. I thought how can I make a post that sums it up when you have so many factors as to why
it came to this.. I settled on this to try to give some perspective for those
only getting western propaganda ( ya we do it as well as Russia):
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You can be sure we had a hand in militarizing Kyiv government and turning it into a hostile actor against Russia, which is not to excuse Potin's war but Ukraine had become a defacto NATO state. Intolerable for Russia.
US ( Trump and Biden ) were glad to dismiss Russia's legit security needs; the usual Cold War 2.0 play...
It goes back to the Euromaidan and our part in overthrowing the pro-Russian government (Obama state dept) which started the war in Donbas..."it's complicated"
There's nothing complicated about the weapons manufacturers greed.
 
I've said for years this was a festering potential for war

Because YOU were festering it.

"I would like for you to do us a favor, though..."

You tried to extort Zelensky.

You tried to claim Donbass and other Eastern parts of Ukraine are Russian.

You justified the seizing of Crimea.

This war is because of you.
 
We should have let them join. You are blaming the USA because we protected them, shameful on your part. Keep siding with Putin.
NATO expansion is much more then the "USA"
they are not qualified for NATO as of yet, not would Germany or France vote them in

1995, the Alliance published requirements that countries seeking NATO membership should fulfill. “These include:
a functioning democratic political system based on a market economy; the fair treatment of minority populations;
a commitment to the peaceful resolution of conflicts; the ability and willingness to make a military contribution to NATO operations;
and a commitment to democratic civil-military relations and institutional structures.”

“So the basic point is that it is Ukraine’s choice. Now, in practical terms, absorbing a nation with a simmering conflict with unresolved territorial disputes would obviously be difficult for NATO because NATO then absorbs that conflict,” he added.

Why isn’t Ukraine a NATO member already? “The feeling was, and probably still has been, that Ukraine hadn’t completely taken care of political corruption, that it was still developing its democracy,” Stanley Sloan, an expert in transatlantic relations at Middlebury College and a former international security officer, told McClatchy. “So there were some formal reasons why the Alliance could say that Ukraine was not ready yet to join the Alliance.”


Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article258774458.html#storylink=cpy
 
NATO expansion is much more then the "USA"
they are not qualified for NATO as of yet, not would Germany or France vote them in

1995, the Alliance published requirements that countries seeking NATO membership should fulfill. “These include:
a functioning democratic political system based on a market economy; the fair treatment of minority populations;
a commitment to the peaceful resolution of conflicts; the ability and willingness to make a military contribution to NATO operations;
and a commitment to democratic civil-military relations and institutional structures.”

“So the basic point is that it is Ukraine’s choice. Now, in practical terms, absorbing a nation with a simmering conflict with unresolved territorial disputes would obviously be difficult for NATO because NATO then absorbs that conflict,” he added.

Why isn’t Ukraine a NATO member already? “The feeling was, and probably still has been, that Ukraine hadn’t completely taken care of political corruption, that it was still developing its democracy,” Stanley Sloan, an expert in transatlantic relations at Middlebury College and a former international security officer, told McClatchy. “So there were some formal reasons why the Alliance could say that Ukraine was not ready yet to join the Alliance.”


Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article258774458.html#storylink=cpy

Well, it's certainly looking like all the corruption in Ukraine is thanks to the Russian infiltrators and propagandists like you.

So if we kicked Russia's influence out of Ukraine, the country wouldn't be corrupt anymore.

You all tried to corrupt Ukraine by extorting them...it didn't work because Zelensky isn't corrupt. YOU ARE.
 
I recall when RUNE accused me of making Hillary lose :rolleyes: (in so many words)
you paranoid delusions are overtaking your lithium. time for another dose

Whatever you fucking liar.

You will always be remembered as a liar on JPP because of this:

I didn't ask for a mail in, I would have never known it was sent except my Russian neighbor
( who values American democracy more then most Americans) was kind enough to bring it over

return postage paid envelope included.. what could possibly go wrong?? :palm:

What a fucking liar.

And you have so much contempt for the truth, for honesty, for anybody that you will unscrupulously lie.

But that's what propagandists do...they lie. About everything.
 
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