‘My Fellow Liberals, I’m Tired Of You’

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‘My Fellow Liberals, I’m Tired Of You’

I’m a secular/agnostic Californian and longtime reader of your blog. I’ve enjoyed your books beginning with Crunchy Cons, and have valued your insights over the years.

Though you don’t know me, I feel like I know you and your family. And I want to share with you, from the liberal bastion of Northern California, that I am officially tired of the type of people who have surrounded me my entire life. In the wake of Trump’s election, I am experiencing “tribe fatigue.” I’m not tired of The Other, Detestable Tribe. I’m tired of my own.

A bit about me: I am a [deleted] with two young children. My parents were non-religious Democrats, and my ex-Catholic mom loathes organized religion to this day.

So I was raised a secular liberal. My college professors were secular liberals. During my journalism phase, my newspaper colleagues were secular liberals. My law school professors and peers were – in the vast majority – secular liberals. Almost everyone at my corporate law firm was a secular liberal. My California neighbors and friends are secular liberals, as are my colleagues. My mother, siblings, and their spouses are all secular liberals.

By all rights, I should be a member in good standing of their tribe, “liking” their Facebook posts and joining their candlelight vigils against the evil Trump Administration. But November 8 and its aftermath revealed to me that I am just so tired of these people. I can’t be like them, and I don’t want my kids turning into them.........


https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/fellow-liberals-tired-of-you/
 
I am tired of their undisguised contempt for tens of millions of Americans, with no effort to temper their response to the election with humility or empathy.

I am tired of their unexamined snobbery and condescension.

I am tired of their name-calling and virtue-signaling as signs of supposedly high intelligence.

I am tired of their trendiness, jumping on every left-liberal bandwagon that comes along (transgender activism, anyone?) and then acting like anyone not on board is an idiot/hater.

I am tired of their shallowness. It’s hard to have a deep conversation with people who are obsessed with moving their kids’ pawns across the board (grades, sports, college, grad school, career) and, in their spare time, entertaining themselves and taking great vacations.

I am tired of their acceptance of vulgarity and sarcastic irreverence as the cultural ocean in which their kids swim. I like pop culture as much as the next person, but people who would never raise their kids on junk food seem to think nothing of letting then wallow in cultural junk, exposed to nothing ennobling, aspirational, or even earnest.

I am tired of watching them raise clueless kids (see above) who go off to college and within months are convinced they live in a rapey, racist patriarchy; “Make America Great Again” is hate speech; and Black Lives Matter agitators are their brothers-in-arms against White Privilege. If my kids are like that at nineteen, I’ll feel I’ve seriously failed them as a parent. Yet the general sentiment seems to be these are good, liberal kids who may have gotten a bit carried away.

I am tired of their lack of interest in any form of serious morality or self-betterment. These are decent, responsible people, many compassionate by temperament. Yet they seem two-dimensional, as if they believe that being a nice, well-socialized person who holds the correct political views is all there is, and there is nothing else to talk about. Isn’t there, though?

I am tired of being bored and exasperated by everybody. I feel like I have read this book a thousand times, and there are no surprises in it. Down with Trump! Trans Lives Matter! Climate deniers are destroying the planet! No cake, we’re gluten-free!
 
These are good people in a lot of ways. But there has got to be a better tribe.

That leads me to . . . drum roll . . . the Christian Right. It is no small feat, switching tribes. It feels stressful and weird to abandon your tribe for the Detested Other Side.

Since November 8, my husband and I have been taking the kids to church. (He is politically conservative with a religious bent, so no argument there.) I have come this close to buying a giant poster of the American flag for the living room. I may do it still.

Right now, I am struggling to accept the basic Christian doctrines (virgin birth, resurrection, second coming) because I feel the Christian tribe may be the right tribe for my family. We just finished watching a BBC miniseries about the birth of Jesus, which was so beautiful and moving compared to secular TV. My nine-year-old really enjoyed it. I want to prepare my kids to live according to some unchanging truth, not subject to every passing trend, and this felt like a start. But I worry that an inability to believe in the supernatural aspects of the faith will limit my ability to be a “real” Christian.

Last Sunday’s sermon mentioned 1 Peter:18-19, “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors.” This may be obvious to you, but secular liberalism does seem empty in some way, despite all the things my educated, middle-class tribe has to be grateful for. If that’s what’s beenhanded down to me, I want more, especially for my precious kids. I’m trying.
 
Sounds like a PC Fascist that's ready to engage with others rather than shouting them down.
Truth Rejector, have you thought about doing that?
 
These are good people in a lot of ways. But there has got to be a better tribe.

That leads me to . . . drum roll . . . the Christian Right. It is no small feat, switching tribes. It feels stressful and weird to abandon your tribe for the Detested Other Side.

Since November 8, my husband and I have been taking the kids to church. (He is politically conservative with a religious bent, so no argument there.) I have come this close to buying a giant poster of the American flag for the living room. I may do it still.

Right now, I am struggling to accept the basic Christian doctrines (virgin birth, resurrection, second coming) because I feel the Christian tribe may be the right tribe for my family. We just finished watching a BBC miniseries about the birth of Jesus, which was so beautiful and moving compared to secular TV. My nine-year-old really enjoyed it. I want to prepare my kids to live according to some unchanging truth, not subject to every passing trend, and this felt like a start. But I worry that an inability to believe in the supernatural aspects of the faith will limit my ability to be a “real” Christian.

Last Sunday’s sermon mentioned 1 Peter:18-19, “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors.” This may be obvious to you, but secular liberalism does seem empty in some way, despite all the things my educated, middle-class tribe has to be grateful for. If that’s what’s beenhanded down to me, I want more, especially for my precious kids. I’m trying.

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Highly doubtful people will start believing in Mysticism at middle age. Who in their right minds wants to contaminate their kids with a bunch of superstitious nonsense?
You had me going there for the first two posts. This blows your cover as some kind of 'Preacher'.
 
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Highly doubtful people will start believing in Mysticism at middle age. Who in their right minds wants to contaminate their kids with a bunch of superstitious nonsense?
You had me going there for the first two posts. This blows your cover as some kind of 'Preacher'.

Nonsense like "'it's ok to be white' is hate speech"?
 
Decent lawyers have to be able to operate on either side of a case, at least on the civil side of the court. Only zealots can't see any validity in the opposition's positions.
 
Nonsense like "'it's ok to be white' is hate speech"?

Truth Rejector's third post had a 'Sermon' about 'religion'.

TD: "Since November 8, my husband and I have been taking the kids to church. "
TD: "Right now, I am struggling to accept the basic Christian doctrines"
TD: "Last Sunday’s sermon mentioned 1 Peter:18-19,"

Truth Rejector gave some bullshit narrative about 'accepting Jesus' and all would be Right in the World.

As far as your "Nonsense like "'it's ok to be white' is hate speech"?"
I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Truth Rejector's third post had a 'Sermon' about 'religion'.

TD: "Since November 8, my husband and I have been taking the kids to church. "
TD: "Right now, I am struggling to accept the basic Christian doctrines"
TD: "Last Sunday’s sermon mentioned 1 Peter:18-19,"

Truth Rejector gave some bullshit narrative about 'accepting Jesus' and all would be Right in the World.

As far as your "Nonsense like "'it's ok to be white' is hate speech"?"
I have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm talking about nonsense.
 
Sounds like a PC Fascist that's ready to engage with others rather than shouting them down.

She doesn't sound like you at all Jack. Her treatise is intelligent; you, not so much.

Truth Rejector, have you thought about doing that?

What truth have I rejected you sad little sack? I don't shout others down Jack. I beat them over the head with facts until they start shouting me down. That's how the left works sad little sack.
 
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha .......

Highly doubtful people will start believing in Mysticism at middle age. Who in their right minds wants to contaminate their kids with a bunch of superstitious nonsense?
You had me going there for the first two posts. This blows your cover as some kind of 'Preacher'.

I hope for your sake you're right; that it is merely mysticism. But as I have always said, morality is not inherent and without faith, we would all be murderous barbarians still.
 
Truth Rejector's third post had a 'Sermon' about 'religion'.

TD: "Since November 8, my husband and I have been taking the kids to church. "
TD: "Right now, I am struggling to accept the basic Christian doctrines"
TD: "Last Sunday’s sermon mentioned 1 Peter:18-19,"

Truth Rejector gave some bullshit narrative about 'accepting Jesus' and all would be Right in the World.

As far as your "Nonsense like "'it's ok to be white' is hate speech"?"
I have no idea what you are talking about.

Idiot; that isn't me talking. Damn you are a fucking retarded loony tune.
 
She doesn't sound like you at all Jack. Her treatise is intelligent; you, not so much.



What truth have I rejected you sad little sack? I don't shout others down Jack. I beat them over the head with facts until they start shouting me down. That's how the left works sad little sack.

So far, you haven't said anything.
 
I hope for your sake you're right; that it is merely mysticism. But as I have always said, morality is not inherent and without faith, we would all be murderous barbarians still.

Is Mohammad bin Salman 'a man of Faith'? Can you say 'Khashoggi'?

(I won't bring up the 'Inquisition', that would be too easy)
 
I’m a secular/agnostic Californian and longtime reader of your blog.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/fellow-liberals-tired-of-you/


Do you think this person was drawn to the Christian Right by the shining example of Trump?


6 Interesting Facts About Donald Trump's Christian Faith

He declared: "I will be the greatest representative of the Christians they've had in a long time."

He says he's Presbyterian.

He says he's pro-life.

Asked by Bill O'Reilly if there was a Muslim problem, Trump answered yes.

He called the Bible "The Book, it is the thing."

He praised evangelical leaders Tony Perkins and Ralph Reed.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/6-interesting-facts-about-donald-trumps-christian-faith-140522/


If I say I'm Presbyterian, claim to be pro-life (after switching to the GOP), agree there is a Muslim problem, call the Bible a good thing, and lie a lot, can I join too?
 
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