MY vision for the future of mankind

Properly fettered capitalism works like a charm.


There is nothing you can replace capitalism with that will produce the individual creativity that helps mankind grow.


anyone who tries to talk you into giving up capitalism wants to enslave you
 
evince said:
Properly fettered capitalism works like a charm.
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wrong. Capitalism caters to greed. Greed causes poverty.


There is nothing you can replace capitalism with that will produce the individual creativity that helps mankind grow.
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Socialism


anyone who tries to talk you into giving up capitalism wants to enslave you
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We are already enslaved to capitalism! Especially if you are a third world country(yes imperial capitalism is to blame). Try to stop working and you'll be homeless in no time. People are slaves to debt, taxes and inflation via the capitalist system.
 
wiseones2cents said:
wrong. Capitalism caters to greed. Greed causes poverty.




Socialism




We are already enslaved to capitalism! Especially if you are a third world country(yes imperial capitalism is to blame). Try to stop working and you'll be homeless in no time. People are slaves to debt, taxes and inflation via the capitalist system.
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here is a clue.

humans were always dead if they stopped working even before mankind left the forrest,


where in socialism of the catalyst for man to invent?

socialism is the best form of government on paper.

when applied to actual human beings it becomes a corrupt mess of secret power maneuvering.


You DONT eliminate mans greed by employing socialism.

You hide it in the back closet.

think of a world where you cant make something in your garage and have your neighbor ask you to make him one and he will pay you for your trouble.


sending people to prison for having ideas is what socialism ends up doing you complete child minded fool
 
wiseones2cents said:
I know. The truth hurts! Capitalism creates debt and debt creates taxes and inflation and they in turn create poverty. Capitalism when mismanaged(which is always) creates slavery to perpetual debt.
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Another incredibly dumb statement. How does capitalism create debt? How does debt create taxes?

You voted for Obama didn't you?
 
wiseones2cents said:
What a waste of time to debate this guy. He replied with mostly insults. The European bankers already OWN America! Here is a little history for you, you dumb fuck. Capitalism proved to be a big failure. In the 20's when all the banks failed, and were going out of business due to corruption and mismanagement? People started making runs on the bank. And the bankers were unable to give back money because their investments had gone sour. This created a massive depression. Industry came to a hault!So they created the federal reserve, so it can make money out of thin air. UNCONSTITUTIONALLY, to cover the banks. What you have today is not even capitalism, since capitalism failed LONG ago!

Today it only exists as long as the people believe that the worthless federal notes hold vale(which they actually do not)! Put that in your pipe and smoke it! You've just been owned bitch!


Again, most of the national debt IS INTEREST! Therefore your reply is unsupported by reality.
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You're a dimwit of epic proportions. Most of your posts contain some of the most ignorant claims, this one included, of any of the leftist dullards on this forum.

How does one debate with stupid? What can anyone say about ignorance other than it is ignorant. Your incredibly stupid posts are not deserving of anything to be taken seriously; but rather for deserved derision for the repugnant stupidity it represents.

You voted for Obama didn't you? Most repugnant dimwits did. There seems to be a high correlation between dimwit and voting for Obama.

By the way dimwit; any bank would go bankrupt if there were a RUN on them because the capital requirements that allow them to create money from thin air are at 10%. I know you are a brain dead simpleton who thinks the money you deposit in the bank just sits there with your name on it, but that is not how the real world works. Yes, you really are THAT incredib,y stupid; not only a whiney effeminate asshat.

Moron.
 
evince said:
here is a clue.

humans were always dead if they stopped working even before mankind left the forrest,
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Here is a clue for you. I spoke with a guy from a country that stated before capitalism? No one needed to work. Sure they hunted and they fished and they gathered food, but no one was enslaved to 40+ hours a week. The capitalists came. Bought everything and next thing you now? Everything became regulated and expensive.

There is a saying in Europe. In Europe, people work to live. In North America? People live to work(till they die)!!!


where in socialism of the catalyst for man to invent?
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The Soviet Union is responsible for more technological breakthroughs then any other nation. But the Capitalists used money made out of thin air, to lure eastern scientists to America.

socialism is the best form of government on paper.
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I've done my homework and socialism is the best BY FAR period. Mind you, there are many forms of Socialism. I am referring to my form, where people can own their own homes and have possessions. They just can't own major industry. I've defined my version of socialism on here many times.

when applied to actual human beings it becomes a corrupt mess of secret power maneuvering.
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Not with democratic socialism.


You DONT eliminate mans greed by employing socialism.

You hide it in the back closet.
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Then you agree it is being kept in check?lol

think of a world where you cant make something in your garage and have your neighbor ask you to make him one and he will pay you for your trouble.


sending people to prison for having ideas is what socialism ends up doing you complete child minded fool
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Your starting to be an idiot. My socialism caters to entrepreneurs, but after a certain period, the government buys you off with enough money to retire comfortably. Jut like an expiring patent. The government run industry is owned by the people. They are all share holders and they will chose appropriate leaders to manage their industry.
 
wiseones2cents said:
Silly boy. The house does not like to gamble. It's only ok when the middle class loses his/her investments. The rich don't like to lose. The rich operate like the mafia. They ALWAYS get their money back. Or at least try to using every means possible.

When they unconstitutionally made fiat money it gave life to a faulty system.

What you are suggesting is that all the depositors in the bank should be allowed to lose their life savings and deposits because a bank mismanaged their money? Bad loans?

You have to understand. A bank makes money using other people's money. They get deposits. Give the depositors some interest(which is also taxed), then they lend it out at 5x the interest and pocket it. When the company goes bankrupt, the bank takes the loss. Since it's not the bank's money? It is actually the depositor's money that is lost. That is why the bank now charges so many service fees. To re-cooperate losses via failed capitalist ventures. The main bankers would never dip into their own stah and take a loss.
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To re-cooperate losses? You're really THAT incredibly dumb.
 
Truth Detector said:
You're a dimwit of epic proportions. Most of your posts contain some of the most ignorant claims, this one included, of any of the leftist dullards on this forum.

How does one debate with stupid? What can anyone say about ignorance other than it is ignorant. Your incredibly stupid posts are not deserving of anything to be taken seriously; but rather for deserved derision for the repugnant stupidity it represents.

You voted for Obama didn't you? Most repugnant dimwits did. There seems to be a high correlation between dimwit and voting for Obama.

By the way dimwit; any bank would go bankrupt if there were a RUN on them because the capital requirements that allow them to create money from thin air are at 10%. I know you are a brain dead simpleton who thinks the money you deposit in the bank just sits there with your name on it, but that is not how the real world works. Yes, you really are THAT incredib,y stupid; not only a whiney effeminate asshat.

Moron.
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Yawn... A unintellectual rant full of insults as usual. Therefore you agree that for capitalism to work? You have to be able to create capital out of thin air? That doesn't sound too capitalistic.lol And if Capitalism was so successful you stupid fuck, why has there been a history of runs on banks?lol It's because capitalism doesn't work!!! I can explain to you the MANY reasons why it doesn't work and why it causes recessions, but I think you would hurt your brain trying to understand.lol
 
Yes. When you go into a country and just assert ownership of it through force, and denominate it all in your fairy currency, that allows of a bunch of friends of the king to come in and take your land and resources, peacefully. Like wow. A mindfuck of epic proportions. That's capitalism.
 
Poor people always roll out that capitalism is evil!
Warren buff and bill gates show obviously the poor whine like the little bitches they are.
 
wiseones2cents said:
Doesn't mater. The federal reserve was invented to stop runs on banks. But they only bailed out the banks they supported.

Basically they gambled with loans, over invested and couldn't deal with the bank runs. Even fractional banking is a way for them to make money from money they don't have. Capitalism is a sham.
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So if capitalism, a non entity, is a sham; what works better? Communism? Bloated Socialist Governments spending other people's money engaged in equal outcomes?

You're not a wiseone; you're a poorly informed dimwit who has the economic prowess of an earthworm.

Yes, you really are THAT dumb. You probably voted for Obama too; a majority of dimwits did.
 
The Dude said:
Poor people always roll out that capitalism is evil!
Warren buff and bill gates show obviously the poor whine like the little bitches they are.
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Rich farts do nothing but smell. Who needs 'em except insecure buggers who long for slavery?
 
wiseones2cents said:
Maybe you can explain to me why a bank would charge you services to hold(or manage) YOUR money, of which they make interest off of?
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because the laws allow it.

Its all a matter of fettering huh.


Properly fettered capitalism is the BEST system mankind can live in
 
Truth Detector said:
So if capitalism, a non entity, is a sham; what works better? Communism? Bloated Socialist Governments spending other people's money engaged in equal outcomes?

You're not a wiseone; you're a poorly informed dimwit who has the economic prowess of an earthworm.

Yes, you really are THAT dumb. You probably voted for Obama too; a majority of dimwits did.
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Democratic socialism in my sense of the word. I will school you any day on economics.

I didn't vote for Obama but I sure supported him over the Republican war mongers. Your so stupid you voted for Bush twice! The world has yet to recover from his evil deeds.
 
He has money so he takes it personally.


he forgets many people with money got that money by being born or by being so moralless they were willing to distory the lives of others to get it.

Not all wealthy people are evil.

about 4 in 100 are sociopaths though.

I think it may be higher in the population of the wealthy though.

sociopaths are VERY willing to sacrifice the well being of others than a properly brain wired human


Its give sociopaths an edge
 
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