Shall we just start listing post numbers then? Seriously, this really has gotten repetitive. And it doesn't matter the quality, number, expertise of the experts I link to, all you give me is Jones-style already debunked links and rehash/repeat, with the occasional "Nobody has answered this question" even though it was answered in post number 4 (yes really that early in the thread).. When that is pointed out, more "Nobody has answered." comes around, reposting links to experts who debunked Jones and his theory....
As I said, that's what this conversation is with you. While I can see from your vantage you pretend that no other vantage is possible because some guy that I've never heard of says so, even though myriad experts say they are bull and explain why with what I studied.... math.
As I said to AHZ... Distrust does not mean you must follow into the illogical and refuted and repeat the discredited as if it were credulous. Distrust doesn't mean you have to believe EVERYTHING that is said about the government that is bad. Sometimes people are just wrong, even if they are talking smack at the government.