New atheism

[Into the Night]

If we define the universe as the collection of stars and galaxies we observe, it had an origin 13.7 billion years ago.

This is the theory of the Big Bang, which is not a theory of science. It is religion.

Any speculations about what happened before the initial conditions of cosmic inflation, or the possibility of an eternal multiverse is sheer speculation

1 != many.

 

[Into the Night]

There's a fine line between pointing out that a grown adult believes fairy tale stories and calling them an idiot or other insulting names.

No one mentioned fairies, Void.

 

[Into the Night]

Questioning religious orthodoxy is healthy, and goes back to Martin Luther King, and earlier. You wouldn't have Quakers, Unitarians, let alone atheists, if people didn't question religious orthodoxy.

I don't think there is much to be gained in the grand scheme of things by calling religion evil, and believers idiots. Which is where the New Atheists tend to go.

There is no such thing as 'New Atheists'.

 

[Into the Night]

I think the New Atheists are right that blind faith should be questioned, and religious orthodoxy challenged.

On the other hand, I don't think the New Atheists are educated and trained in theories of human knowledge. They seem to have almost no awareness of epistomology, and seem to believe a radical positivist reliance on empiricism is the only source of all knowledge and truth.

They don't seem to have actually read any of the primary sacred texts of the major world religions, outside of a passing and cursory familiarity with the Christian bible.

There also don't seem to be any physicists among the New Atheists. Dawkins training in biology is vested in emergent properties of nature. He doesn't have the training and background in the fundamental nature of reality that physicists have

Dawkins is not an ahteist.

 

[Into the Night]

Infinity is a tricky topic. If the universe was infinitely old, would today ever have gotten here? I don't know the answer to that.

'Today' is a function of the Earth, not the Universe. Time has no meaning other than that we give because we are each mortal.

 

[Into the Night]

Three decades of global warming denial

No gas or vapor has the capability to create energy out of nothing. You are again ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

is on the cusp of bringing harm to their children and grandchildren.

What harm???

The deep south and the gulf coast are facing the worst consequences of global warming,

What 'global warming'??? It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. No gas or vapor can create energy out of nothing. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

and those happen to be the places with the densest concentrations of climate deniers.

Who is denying climate???

 

[ZenMode]

No one mentioned fairies, Void.

again, stop being stupid. you know what a fairy tale is.

 

[ZenMode]

No gas or vapor has the capability to create energy out of nothing. You are again ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

Stop being stupid. Nobody, including those who study climate change, have ever said gases create energy. If you're going to engage in a conversation about a topic, at least make yourself knowledgeable about the basics.

What harm???

What 'global warming'??? It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Opinion stated as fact.

No gas or vapor can create energy out of nothing.

(copy/paste from above) Stop being stupid. Nobody, including those who study climate change, have ever said gases create energy. If you're going to engage in a conversation about a topic, at least make yourself knowledgeable about the basics.

You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

You're too ignorant, or love, too much, playing stupid, to acknowledge that nobody studying climate change has ever said such a thing.

 

[Into the Night]

again, stop being stupid. you know what a fairy tale is.

What is your infatuation with fairies, Void??

 

[Into the Night]

Stop being stupid.

You are describing yourself again. It is YOU that believes a magick gas can somehow create energy out of nothing.

Nobody, including those who study climate change,

Climate cannot change, Void.

have ever said gases create energy.

Don't try to deny your own posts!

If you're going to engage in a conversation about a topic, at least make yourself knowledgeable about the basics.

Already did. You are ignoring the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. No gas or vapor can create energy out of nothing.

Opinion stated as fact.(copy/paste from above)

A theory of science is not opinion. It is a fact.

Stop being stupid.

You are describing yourself again, Void. You can't blame your problems on me or anybody else.

Nobody, including those who study climate change,

Climate cannot change, Void.

 

[Daylight63]

Dawkins is not an ahteist.

Is anyone an ahteist?

 

[Into the Night]

Is anyone an ahteist?

Yes. I know a couple. Atheists don't care whether any god or gods exist or not. They simply don't go there.

Science is atheistic.
Math is atheistic.
Logic is atheistic.

None of them care whether any god or gods exist or not.

Dawkins is not an atheist. He belongs to the Church of No God, a fundamentalist style religion.

 

[Daylight63]

Yes. I know a couple. Atheists don't care whether any god or gods exist or not. They simply don't go there.

Science is atheistic.
Math is atheistic.
Logic is atheistic.

None of them care whether any god or gods exist or not.

Dawkins is not an atheist. He belongs to the Church of No God, a fundamentalist style religion.

No, you said "ahteist". I was asking about ahteists.

 

[Into the Night]

No, you said "ahteist". I was asking about ahteists.

Word games don't work, Dimlight.

 

[Hume]

There is no conflict between science and religion.

ok

 

[Hume]

This is called the Theory of the Continuum, and is not a theory of science. It is a religion.

you are fucking stupid

 

[Hume]

Infinity is a tricky topic. If the universe was infinitely old, would today ever have gotten here? I don't know the answer to that.

Days are measured by rotation of earth around the sun. Has nothing to do with eternity.

 

[Into the Night]

you are fucking stupid

Mantra 1a. Lame.

 

[Into the Night]

Days are measured by rotation of earth around the sun. Has nothing to do with eternity.

The Earth doesn't rotate about the Sun, Hugo. It rotates around it's own axis. The Sun is too large, you see.

 

[Hume]

The Earth doesn't rotate about the Sun, Hugo. It rotates around it's own axis.

You are profoundly mentally ill.