NFL: League NOT seeking mandate for players to stand during anthem

TTQ64 said:
It doesn't change the fact that you still support institutional racism and the racist white.

It doesn't make one bit of difference that you claim libertarian republican it's, what you support.

You can not want to change the war on drugs and still think all Black males are criminals. You just can't.

Did you watch that documentary?
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Enjoy the status quo which is what you want. Seems to be working out real well for you
 
Althea said:
I never had acne, but thanks for your concern. You were still watching Nickelodeon when the prison industry exploded. Yes...Fed money went to build prisons. I didn't say the money went to build private prisons. I said the lion's share of the money went to the private prison industry. Did you simply ignore my comment about investors?

When Federal prisoners are sent to a private prison, where do you think the funding comes from?
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Unfortunately, the biggest jailer in American history was our own Bill Clinton .. which helped Hilary Clinton lose the election.
 
blackascoal said:
One of the most critical requirements to lead and/or advise is the ability for thorough research.

Review Boards in Many US Cities Handle Complaints Against Police
A 2013 study by California State University Fullerton shows that more than 100 police departments, many in large cities, have civilian oversight boards. While New York City has such oversight, the Ferguson, Missouri city council only voted last September to set up a civilian review board.
https://www.voanews.com/a/review-boards-in-us-cities-handle-complaints-against-police/2600701.html

National Association for Civilian Oversight of Law Enforcement
http://www.nacole.org/faqs

Civilian oversight boards need greater power and body cams need more work .. but there are many tentacles into addressing police violence already in the works .. a fact completely unknown to the right.

If you don't know these truths, you cannot lead, you cannot advise.
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you are not showing me anything new here..body cams are ignored as evidence. Legislation is pending, so we'll see.

The sticking point has always been getting a grand jury to indict, even when the evidence is manifest.
Grand Juries are only as good as the citizen that sit on them, and members of a community may or may not be open to indictment.

The review boards are more investigatory -especially if they get subpoena powers..
that's where it needs to go.
 
blackascoal said:
Unfortunately, the biggest jailer in American history was our own Bill Clinton .. which helped Hilary Clinton lose the election.
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I saw a Fox piece, and started a thread here that nobody is interested in. I don't give much credence to the author, but he claimed that the Clintons haven't been talking to each other since the campaign. Bill tried to warn Hillary that she was making critical errors in strategy, but she ignored him.

As such, I fully believe that he set out to sabotage her campaign with his idiotic remarks about the ACA being 'crazy', and his meeting with Lynch.
 
Althea said:
I saw a Fox piece, and started a thread here that nobody is interested in. I don't give much credence to the author, but he claimed that the Clintons haven't been talking to each other since the campaign. Bill tried to warn Hillary that she was making critical errors in strategy, but she ignored him.

As such, I fully believe that he set out to sabotage her campaign with his idiotic remarks about the ACA being 'crazy', and his meeting with Lynch.
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I've believed the same thing since she announced and he started making outlandish statements that could not be helpful to her campaign .. which by the way comes as no surprise.

"A few years ago, this guy (Obama) would be getting us coffee." .. Remember that?

He's smart enough to know that no matter what context he said it in, it would be harmful to his wife.
 
Althea said:
I never had acne, but thanks for your concern. You were still watching Nickelodeon when the prison industry exploded. Yes...Fed money went to build prisons. I didn't say the money went to build private prisons. I said the lion's share of the money went to the private prison industry. Did you simply ignore my comment about investors?

When Federal prisoners are sent to a private prison, where do you think the funding comes from?
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Would you be so kind as to share how the '94 crime bill, of which money went to build federal prisons, but not private prisons, went to the private prison industry
 
noise said:
why do you care?
you've already told me I have no interest in this -as well as other insults
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What insults?

You are quite obviously ill-informed on the issue and in no position to lead nor advise. Is that an insult or the truth?

The protests are about greater accountability and oversight .. both of which are designed to remove rogue cops and departments .. something you are again obviously unaware of.
 
blackascoal said:
They're against that too.

I haven't taken the time to dig into legislation they've supported, but I can almost guarantee I can find some.
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IMO libertarians still support institutional racism. All that small government, individual liberties, free markets....blah blah blah, is nothing more then ways to keep Blacks oppressed.

You can't say you are against the drug war just so you won't be called a racist.
 
noise said:
you are not showing me anything new here..body cams are ignored as evidence. Legislation is pending, so we'll see.

The sticking point has always been getting a grand jury to indict, even when the evidence is manifest.
Grand Juries are only as good as the citizen that sit on them, and members of a community may or may not be open to indictment.

The review boards are more investigatory -especially if they get subpoena powers..
that's where it needs to go.
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:0) You're tripping over your own logic brother.

What do you think the protests are about?

.. and guess what we're talking about?

Here's a clue .. it isn't the flag.
 
blackascoal said:
What insults?

You are quite obviously ill-informed on the issue and in no position to lead nor advise. Is that an insult or the truth?

The protests are about greater accountability and oversight .. both of which are designed to remove rogue cops and departments .. something you are again obviously unaware of.
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sure. that's why i've thought up a better solution of indictment powers for CRBrds -because I'm "uninformed".
I've also given good advice about clarity and simplification of message to get thru to 1/2 the country who don't understand the reasoning.

Hostility from you is all bound up in my support for Trump -whereas the last thing i want is more "racism".
I want MAGA,and if you can't separate that out, it's not going to help to discuss anything else
 
TTQ64 said:
IMO libertarians still support institutional racism. All that small government, individual liberties, free markets....blah blah blah, is nothing more then ways to keep Blacks oppressed.

You can't say you are against the drug war just so you won't be called a racist.
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Small government and lassiez-faire thinking are where libertarians fall short. They are both simply unworkable. Proven to be nothing more than a libertarian wet dream.

That being said, opposition to mindless incarceration and the war on drugs are indeed part of their small government philosophy. They are also occasionally antiwar.

But they don't really get into cultural issues as republicans who have built their entire house on cultural issues.

If a republican and a libertarian are drowning and you've only got one life-preserver .. throw it to the libertarian.
 
noise said:
sure. that's why i've thought up a better solution of indictment powers for CRBrds -because I'm "uninformed".
I've also given good advice about clarity and simplification of message to get thru to 1/2 the country who don't understand the reasoning.

Hostility from you is all bound up in my support for Trump -whereas the last thing i want is more "racism".
I want MAGA,and if you can't separate that out, it's not going to help to discuss anything else
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:0) You haven't thought up ANYTHING on civilian review boards that hasn't already been thought of long ago. You don't know this because you haven't done any real research, but that truth is obvious from just what I've casually posted on the issue.

Your belief in your special mental powers is unfounded.

Protestors are taking a knee to demand all the things you think you've thought up all by yourself and more. So you must agree with them. right?

When did you get so thin-skinned that truth is painful and makes you feel all insulted?
 
blackascoal said:
Small government and lassiez-faire thinking are where libertarians fall short. They are both simply unworkable. Proven to be nothing more than a libertarian wet dream.

That being said, opposition to mindless incarceration and the war on drugs are indeed part of their small government philosophy. They are also occasionally antiwar.

But they don't really get into cultural issues as republicans who have built their entire house on cultural issues.

If a republican and a libertarian are drowning and you've only got one life-preserver .. throw it to the libertarian.
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I'd rather they both drown. They both would vote to let my ass drown in a heartbeat.
 
TTQ64 said:
I'd rather they both drown. They both would vote to let my ass drown in a heartbeat.
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You're tough girlfriend.

In truth, I would try to save them both. :0) Wouldn't want that on my conscience even though they may not have done the same for me.
 
blackascoal said:
Unfortunately, the biggest jailer in American history was our own Bill Clinton .. which helped Hilary Clinton lose the election.
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The stage was already set when Clinton took office.

Americans hated crime because it was Black people committing it.

I will not lay this at the feet of Clinton, like the right does, but I don't absolve him of his participation.

They admitted they were wrong along with other dems who signed on at that time. Now they want to fix the mistake they made.

The GOPigs are still shouting law and order, drugs, and Black criminals from the top of the mountain. Why in the world would I be worried about what Clinton did when they still want us locked up in chains. Sorry, I can't get on that train.

Hilary lost because the racist white man stole this election. Nothing else
 
blackascoal said:
You're tough girlfriend.

In truth, I would try to save them both. :0) Wouldn't want that on my conscience even though they may not have done the same for me.
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And this is why you are well respected on this board. :good4u:

I hate them. I hate everything they stand for. They don't deserved to breath air. They are a mean violent people I have no sympathy for.
They have 1million of my Black brothers and sisters still enslaved making multi billions of dollars and telling Americans lies about us every day.

You can continue being the safe place they can turn to whilst I'm calling them out for every piece of racist shit they represent.

:thup: lol.
 
TTQ64 said:
The stage was already set when Clinton took office.

Americans hated crime because it was Black people committing it.

I will not lay this at the feet of Clinton, like the right does, but I don't absolve him of his participation.

They admitted they were wrong along with other dems who signed on at that time. Now they want to fix the mistake they made.

The GOPigs are still shouting law and order, drugs, and Black criminals from the top of the mountain. Why in the world would I be worried about what Clinton did when they still want us locked up in chains. Sorry, I can't get on that train.

Hilary lost because the racist white man stole this election. Nothing else
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Hillary lost for a lot of reasons, not the least of which were her husband. The black vote was not what is should have been because of Bill Clinton, less about Hillary.

Obviously I don't absolve republicans of their bullshit, nor the abject ignorance of people who voted for a clown, but democrats have some soul-searching (pun intended) to do of their own.
 
blackascoal said:
Hillary lost for a lot of reasons, not the least of which were her husband. The black vote was not what is should have been because of Bill Clinton, less about Hillary.

Obviously I don't absolve republicans of their bullshit, nor the abject ignorance of people who voted for a clown, but democrats have some soul-searching (pun intended) to do of their own.
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Hilary had 3 million more votes than dump. Americans came out to vote as usual, and they chose Clinton


You can't possible believe Hilary lost partially because of the Black vote?
 
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