Ninth Circuit rules in favor of federal deportation

[Into the Night]

The bill of rights have been "incorporated" - so many state powers have been vaporized

There was no 'incorporation'. The Constitution is clear.
The 1st amendment does not apply to the States.
The 2nd amendment has always applied to the States.
So has the 3rd through 10th amendments always applied to the States as well as the federal government.

 

[gfm7175]

The Constitution that THEY SIGNED ON TO give the Federal Government the right to control immigration. Are you against the Constitution?

Yes, she is.

She HATES the document... yet whenever she thinks it is convenient for her, she will attempt to hide behind the document that she despises.

 

[zymurgy]

What's the first word of the first amendment?

congress

yet now the 1st amendment applies to the states.

how?

it's called incorporation of the bill of rights - so obviously state powers have been curtailed as these amendments which once only applied to the Fed now also applies to states

or are you wanting us to ignore the last 100+ years of court decisions?

 

[gfm7175]

A riot at the Capitol is not an insurrection.

... and neither is a mostly peaceful protest at the Capitol.

 

[Into the Night]

Immigrants looking for jobs is not an invasion.

The illegal immigrants are not looking for jobs, Sybil. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS. They are CRIMINALS.

 

[Into the Night]

congress

yet now the 1st amendment applies to the states.

It does not. The 1st amendment does NOT apply to the States.

how?

it's called incorporation of the bill of rights - so obviously state powers have been curtailed as these amendments which once only applied to the Fed now also applies to states

There was no 'incorporation'. The 1st amendment has never applied to the States and it still doesn't.

or are you wanting us to ignore the last 100+ years of court decisions?

No court has authority to change the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Bank robbery is a federal crime because banks are backed by the credit / insurance of the federal government (FDIC). Should states tell their law enforcement agencies to stop responding to a bank robbery because it is a federal crime?

Also because it involves federal currency.

Now, we know if a governor or legislature in some state did that, they'd be turned out of office in short order because the public isn't going to put up with banks being robbed and people easily getting away with it any more than they put up with wholesale looting of businesses.

Yet that's what King Newsom did to the SDTC, and what the oligarchy has done to the SOTNY.

Right now, there are lots of Democrat politicians who think that the public really doesn't give a damn about illegal immigration because they don't give a damn about it. They're coming to the realization that people actually do care and they're going to be fucked if they don't start caring too.

The Democrats are already fucked. They did it to themselves.

 

[Into the Night]

The post I replied to:

...and my response is still the same.

 

[Into the Night]

The Constitution that THEY SIGNED ON TO give the Federal Government the right to control immigration. Are you against the Constitution?

Phanty has already denied many parts of the Constitution, so the answer is YES. He is against the Constitution.

 

[Diogenes]

Phanty has already denied many parts of the Constitution, so the answer is YES. He is against the Constitution.

"She".

 

[Diogenes]

...and my response is still the same.

I didn't say it wasn't. Context, you see?

 

[Into the Night]

congress

yet now the 1st amendment applies to the states.

No, it does not. It applies ONLY to the federal government.

how?

it's called incorporation of the bill of rights - so obviously state powers have been curtailed as these amendments which once only applied to the Fed now also applies to states

or are you wanting us to ignore the last 100+ years of court decisions?

There was no 'incorporation'. No court has any authority to change the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

I didn't say it wasn't. Context, you see?

Double negative. I think you have lost context as well. Word games don't work.

 

[Diogenes]

I think you have lost context as well.

You're entitled to think what you like, of course.

 

[zymurgy]

It does not. The 1st amendment does NOT apply to the States.

Gitlow v. New York 1925
We lost this battle 99 years ago.

 

[gfm7175]

congress

Correct.

yet now the 1st amendment applies to the states.

No it doesn't.

how?

Only by pretending that the word 'congress' somehow "actually means" the states.

it's called incorporation of the bill of rights - so obviously state powers have been curtailed as these amendments which once only applied to the Fed now also applies to states

There was no "incorporation".

or are you wanting us to ignore the last 100+ years of court decisions?

Courts have no power to rewrite the constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Federal laws apply, in most cases, to interstate and international affairs. That is things happening between states and between nations. What happens within a state is for the state to handle.

Illegal immigration is an interstate and international affair. The illegal is not a US citizen and entered the US illegally. Regardless of location in the US that makes their presence a federal crime, one the federal government can prosecute anywhere it occurs. That takes precedence over the state.

Kiddie porn can be a state or federal issue depending on how the perp carries it out.

You probably should go read the Constitution of the United States again.

 

[Into the Night]

Gitlow v. New York 1925
We lost this battle 99 years ago.

No battle. No court has any authority to change the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

You're entitled to think what you like, of course.

You can't blame your loss of context on me.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You probably should go read the Constitution of the United States again.

Cite the part you think I should review.