Nolan Chart Test

Glorious Watermark XVII said:
I took the test for how I view Obama and got this:

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WOW!

You're kidding
 
Threedee said:
Okay, the Nolan people are retards who have zero comprehension of libertarianism. I think this chemical-biological inability to comprehend libertarianism (and henceforth many crucial American principles) is what I loathe the most about leftists such as these. In many ways, its more criminally stupid than their undying support for abortion.
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Or, you're really a conservative but have convinced yourself that it's too yucky.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Or, you're really a conservative but have convinced yourself that it's too yucky.
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The social conservatives are just as dangerous to our freedoms as the liberals.

Libertarians are lovers of freedom, regardless of whether we personally like the activity involved. To call yourself a libertarian and still fight against freedoms is hypocrisy.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Or, you're really a conservative but have convinced yourself that it's too yucky.
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I personally consider myself a conservative, and would not expect to fall within the libertarian category, despite my numerous libertarian leanings. However, based upon people's lack of understanding of basic political ideologies, I would expect to be placed in the centrist category, owing to misconceptions about leftism and conservatism.
 
Clearly, my support for the Fed means I'm no libertarian, along with the fact that I didn't demand we cut the budget by 50% or more in the budget finance question.
 
WinterBorn said:
The social conservatives are just as dangerous to our freedoms as the liberals.

Libertarians are lovers of freedom, regardless of whether we personally like the activity involved. To call yourself a libertarian and still fight against freedoms is hypocrisy.
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Yep. I'm an opponent of freedom, and I at least have the honesty to say that I'm not a libertarian. I'm a fascist, communist, monarchist nanny-stater who wants to watch you, just like big brother.
 
Threedee said:
I personally consider myself a conservative, and would not expect to fall within the libertarian category, despite my numerous libertarian leanings. However, based upon people's lack of understanding of basic political ideologies, I would expect to be placed in the centrist category, owing to misconceptions about leftism and conservatism.
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Obviously the writers of both tests, along with many posters on this board, do not understand the platform of the conservative moment. Even though it's posted in plain language at conservative.org.
 
Libertarianism is pretty easily defined, since its basically a pure form of 18th and 19th Century American liberal political philosophy. I would not expect any site to be able to propagate a canon for American leftists or conservatives, though. Clearly, neocons and paleocons, agree on very little, for example.
 
Threedee said:
Clearly, my support for the Fed means I'm no libertarian, along with the fact that I didn't demand we cut the budget by 50% or more in the budget finance question.
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Friedman is generally considered to be a libertarian, although he somewhat supported the Fed (he also supported private currencies and free banking). He just had a very hawkish view of things - he though that the fed should just increase the money supply by a standard percentage rate each year and have no other involvement in things. This would prevent what he pointed out was the cause of the depressions (he noted a huge correlation between a collapse in the money supply in the US and the great depression), while still not causing stagflation that came to be associated with the fed liberals, who thought that inflation should be used as a tool to combat unemployment. Recent fed policy (basically since Bernanke took hold) is to target inflation rates, which is a little less hawkish than Friedman.

Then there are the Austrians, who primarily exist among armchair economists on the internet and hold virtually no standing amongst professional economists. They're basically the as right wing as Friedman in most matters but believe a gold standard is magical because it is, ignoring the fact that nations that kept to the gold standard in the great depression imploded.
 
Threedee said:
Libertarianism is pretty easily defined, since its basically a pure form of 18th and 19th Century American liberal political philosophy. I would not expect any site to be able to propagate a canon for American leftists or conservatives, though. Clearly, neocons and paleocons, agree on very little, for example.
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18th century liberals opposed government power in a time when government power was almost exclusively used to promote the interests of the aristocracy. They also didn't have any experience with what they were suggesting and didn't mean for it to be written in stone. It's braindead to import it wholesale into a modern democracy.
 
Glorious Watermark XVII said:
18th century liberals opposed government power in a time when government power was almost exclusively used to promote the interests of the aristocracy. They also didn't have any experience with what they were suggesting and didn't mean for it to be written in stone. It's braindead to import it wholesale into a modern democracy.
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When you say liberal, do you mean socialist?

A democracy is the worst form of govt any man could live under.
 
Rana said:
It is time once again to see if your political leanings have changed in the last year

My results, I am a Centrist, ahahahahahahahaha, bet you wouldn't have guessed it in a million years!


The test
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Interesting, while I like the more detailed descriptions, the problem comes when none of the choices mirror my views... which happened on three of the ten.

That said, I did choose the closest to my views.... I ended up on the line between centrist and libertarian, slightly to the right of center between liberal morons and right wing nuts. :)
 
Liberty said:
When you say liberal, do you mean socialist?
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Outside of Christian communes, socialism didn't exist in the 18th century.

Liberty said:
A democracy is the worst form of govt any man could live under.
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I guarantee you that you'd be happier living in a pure democracy than Soviet Russia. I do realize that the word "democracy" causes libertarians endless consternation, but do realize that when I use the word I am clearly referencing a constitutional democratic republic.
 
Glorious Watermark XVII said:
Outside of Christian communes, socialism didn't exist in the 18th century.



I guarantee you that you'd be happier living in a pure democracy than Soviet Russia. I do realize that the word "democracy" causes libertarians endless consternation, but do realize that when I use the word I am clearly referencing a constitutional democratic republic.
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The earliest form of socialism can be traced back to a couple of brothers in Rome sometime around 100BC.

The founders saw a difference between a democracy, and a constitutional republic. What if a majority voted to legislate everyone go to church every Sunday, or go to jail.
 
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