Not hiring smokers?

tekkychick said:
In what way? You say because businesses pay for their employees' health care (or part of it) they have a right to not hire smokers due to smokers over time having higher health care costs.

So do diabetics. So do people with heart disease. So do people with HIV. So do overweight people. So do older people. So do people whose kids have cancer. So do people whose spouses have health issues. And on and on and on. Not a false equivalency.

If employers are allowed to discriminate based on health care costs, where does it stop?
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The difference is that smoking is voluntary, diabetes, cancer, and HIV are not.
 
Rune said:
Innocent people have contracted aids.
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Um, everyone who contracts AIDS is "innocent". It's not a crime to have sex with another person (well, not in the US); not a crime to get a transfusion; and while sharing needles is done while taking drugs which is a crime, I still don't think they are necessarily guilty; we should have enough needle give-away programs so addicts don't have to share needles. Drug addiction is a sickness, not a crime.

I guess MAYBE if someone got AIDS while raping someone else, that might be a crime; but that's pretty unlikely to happen.
 
tekkychick said:
Um, everyone who contracts AIDS is "innocent". It's not a crime to have sex with another person (well, not in the US); not a crime to get a transfusion; and while sharing needles is done while taking drugs which is a crime, I still don't think they are necessarily guilty; we should have enough needle give-away programs so addicts don't have to share needles. Drug addiction is a sickness, not a crime.

I guess MAYBE if someone got AIDS while raping someone else, that might be a crime; but that's pretty unlikely to happen.
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I guess you can misinterpret anything if you try hard enough. If you must know, I was referring to the wives of drug addicts.
I think if you had any idea how many of my friends died of aids you may not have called me out on this. I didn't consider any of those men guilty either.
 
Rune said:
I guess you can misinterpret anything if you try hard enough. If you must know, I was referring to the wives of drug addicts.
I think if you had any idea how many of my friends died of aids you may not have called me out on this. I didn't consider any of those men guilty either.
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Sorry - I meant to edit this to say "I'm probably not interpreting what you wrote correctly" or something like that, but got pulled away and didn't come back. You aren't the type to accuse people with HIV of being guilty of anything in the aggregate.

I apologize that I blew the correcting of my post and that it came off so badly.
 
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