Nothing Sadder than Average American Workers Parroting the Propaganda of Oligarchy
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Scut Farkus
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would you like to be under capitalism?
SmarterthanYou
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do you believe that the SCOTUS is the supreme ruler of the constitution?
Perhaps you should strive to not be average.
Define what you mean by "excessive merger and acquisition" and provide examples of it.
What I do know is this; corporations and companies are only as relevant as their consumers make them. If consumers stop buying their products and services, they go out of business. No one can force you to use them. Government oligarchy is far more dangerous and leads to dictatorships like we see in Venezuela and Cuba. You do not have any choice and they continue regardless of a profit motive as long as they can forcefully extract taxes from the citizens.
So tell me; what was more dangerous, corporations, or government apparatchiks?
Scut Farkus
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Scut Farkus
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Define what you mean by "excessive merger and acquisition" and provide examples of it.
What I do know is this; corporations and companies are only as relevant as their consumers make them. If consumers stop buying their products and services, they go out of business. No one can force you to use them. Government oligarchy is far more dangerous and leads to dictatorships like we see in Venezuela and Cuba. You do not have any choice and they continue regardless of a profit motive as long as they can forcefully extract taxes from the citizens.
So tell me; what was more dangerous, corporations, or government apparatchiks?
no.
when corporations combine that's one less competitor to compete for dollars. lower prices for consumers is a stated benefit of calitalism.
its very simple.
do you believe in monopoly and cartel busting?
So where are your examples? We do have regulations for monopolistic efforts. Does it prevent other companies from entering markets and competing?
Only for simple minds. In truth, your example is simplistic and you haven't backed it up with any evidence that it is real.
Don't we have anti-Monopolistic and cartel busting laws?
We have anti-monopoly laws. So where are these monopolies and how are they hurting you?
Scut Farkus
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why do we have monopoly laws?
Scut Farkus
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To prevent the things that scare you.
no, they're to protect the overtly stated benefits of capitalism, namely corporate competition lowering prices for consumers.
We do have capitalism. It's just not the free market ideal.
Nearly every major economy is a mixed market capitalism. And because of corporate law, we see the oligarchic shenanigans you mentioned earlier in the thread.
In short, government is the root of the problem, not business.
Scut Farkus
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Scut Farkus
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this government versus corporate false dichotomy, is the largest mental block in history.
They are currently, but they only were able to do so because of the existence of corporations. Before such a legal institution existed, it was easier to hold businesses accountable.
The corporate veil shields corporate ownership from the liabilities that an individual would normally have. We can even see this in how the law treats sole proprietors vs. corporations. Sole proprietors are much more liable than the board of a corporation.
Scut Farkus
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Internationalist fascism.
Scut Farkus
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I agree with elimination of the corporate veil. there is no government without oligarchs. a state seal versus a corporate seal is really no different.
and even without corporate veil there can be oligarchs.
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I can agree with that. Every system has elites, just like every system (outside of a few primitive tribes) has rich and poor.
The most humorous aspect to all this is that the systems with the most corrupt and powerful elites are usually either socialist or Communist.