obama blocks texas voter id law

[Mott the Hoople]

ok... that's ohio.

I admit I am not familiar with all the issues voters of different states have to deal with, but if the stuff damo says is true, there are obviously compelling reasons to have a forum of voter ID.

Why? Because fuck mouthbreather proles too fucking stupid to get a voterid in the span of 4 years.

You also have to look at the historical context for measures like this and how they have been used in the past, particularly in the south, to disenfranchise massive numbers of the electorate to understand why the cause alarm. Yes, it's easy and cheap to get a State photo ID but it's also redundant and it's a slippery slope.

 

[Alias]

You also have to look at the historical context for measures like this and how they have been used in the past, particularly in the south, to disenfranchise massive numbers of the electorate to understand why the cause alarm. Yes, it's easy and cheap to get a State photo ID but it's also redundant and it's a slippery slope.

The only slippery slope you know about is the one on your forehead from your lobotomy. Dumb ass mongrel.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Exactly. That's my point, dude. The Republicans crafted a law to depress likely Democratic voters from voting while minimizing the potential impact on likely Republican voters.

hmm i missed that. interesting.

 

[Alias]

Exactly. That's my point, dude. The Republicans crafted a law to depress likely Democratic voters from voting while minimizing the potential impact on likely Republican voters.

That's the theory. So if republican voters can get ID, why can't democrat voters? Are they "victims"?

 

[Alias]

Nope. No voter fraud here. Yup, yup. Move on.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/03/13/dead_people_and_clones_voting_in_vermont

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Why does the right insist on this when it's not a problem? Why are you trying to fix what isn't broke?

again, how do we know if it's broken when nobody is inspecting it......it's like saying my car isn't broken when I haven't tried to start it in fifteen years......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Dude, the bullshit about ACORN has been so completely discredited. I wouldn't even cite that if I was you. That's just right wing fantasy land. You reich wingers pulled that shit in our State...guess what? ACORN was completely absolved of any wrong doing. So, strike 1.

idiot.....ACORN voter registrars were convicted......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I might be a lying loser

this!.......

 

[Alias]

Poor thing. Derp Twerp is sliding down a slippery slope.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Let's stop pretending that this is anything other than a vehicle to put up as many obstacles as possible for Democratic voters to exercise their right to vote.

duh....of course....

1) you must be alive
2) you must be a US citizen
3) you must not be a felon
4) you must live in the precinct where you are voting
5) you must only vote once....

all designed to block Democrat voters

 

[Damocles]

That's not the point here Grind. You have to identify yourself when you register to vote. What these bills are requring is that you provide additional identification at the time you vote.

The way it's done in Ohio is you have to provide your name, address, either your drivers license # or the last four digigs of your SS# and provide a signature. You have identified your self. When you arrive at your precinct to vote, you have to sign in, you signature is compared against the signature on copy at the precinct to assure it is your signature.

So the question here, is why all of a sudden does a photo ID become required when there has essentially been no problem with voter fraud?

You keep saying that, however the reality is there literally are laws against gathering any info that could be used as evidence.

The FBI has experts that study for years to be able to verify signatures. Literally years to become a handwriting expert. Some volunteer "matching" signatures is not a verification process that has any true chance of catching any fraud.

 

[christiefan915]

There not! I have a voter ID card. I got mine when I registered to vote. Didn't have to pay a thing for it. What people are opposing is requiring a secondary form of identification (a photo ID) when you show up to vote. It's just obvious that the intent of this measure is being used to suppress the rights of certain demographics.

Exactly. So repubs are asking for two forms of voter ID since they're not satisfied with the one issued when registering.

 

[christiefan915]

if no one is checking for it, how would you find it?.......why does the left object to checking for it?........is it because until we do, only God will know?........

If no one is checking for it, how can they say a problem exists?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Let's stop pretending that this is anything other than a vehicle to put up as many obstacles as possible for Democratic voters to exercise their right to vote.

This would infer that a very large portion of democrat voters are poor. how can that be if the texas legislature was dominated by republicans for decades until GW Bush, and later the federal government had democrats in control to help the poor people? did the democrats not do their job?

 

[apple0154]

duh....of course....

1) you must be alive
2) you must be a US citizen
3) you must not be a felon
4) you must live in the precinct where you are voting
5) you must only vote once....

all designed to block Democrat voters

you must not be a felon

That has to be the most outrageous restriction ever placed on voting. Who, other than a felon, has the most at stake in elections? Having been accused, convicted and punished for breaking a law enacted by a particular political party who has more to win or lose by voting for a representative who may be in favor of changing a specific law?

Let's check out the list of "Most Common Felony Crimes" (http://felonyguide.com/List-of-felony-crimes.php?cmpage=2)

Number one is: Drug abuse violations. Who, other than the individual convicted and punished for drug use, has more to lose by being denied the right to vote? They are being forbidden from voting for someone who may change the drug laws and, thereby, possibly having their criminal record expunged. It's an outrage! At least for those who partake of the herb which I do not, however, they have my sympathy and support.

On that note I see it's siesta time.

 

[Bonestorm]

This would infer that a very large portion of democrat voters are poor. how can that be if the texas legislature was dominated by republicans for decades until GW Bush, and later the federal government had democrats in control to help the poor people? did the democrats not do their job?

It doesn't imply anything of the sort and I don't understand your questions at all. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions that you may have but I do not understand them as currently phrased.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It doesn't imply anything of the sort and I don't understand your questions at all. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions that you may have but I do not understand them as currently phrased.

hmmm, I thought it was pretty basic. let me see if I can further simplify it.

1) all your examples that are eligible for use as IDs at polls must be paid for and are most commonly used by conservative types
2) the one FREE ID, a student ID for college students who are usually liberal, is not eligible for use at the polls
3) a certain group that tends to vote conservative can mail in their votes, thus not requiring them to pay for a state issued ID card.

so seeing how conservatives must find it easy to pay for state issued ID cards while Liberals seem to be unable to, instead relying on a free ID issued to them by their educational facility, would imply that conservatives make money and liberals do not.

But that implication can't make any sense because Texas was dominated by Democrats for decades before GW Bush and the republicans won the state over a concealed handgun issue and the dems had full power on the federal side for a couple of years, so how is it that democrats can't afford an ID if democrat politicians are supposed to make things better for them by income redistribution?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Who, other than a felon, has the most at stake in elections?

???....maybe the victims of felons?......do you want felons voting for prosecuting attorneys and judges?......

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Who, other than a felon, has the most at stake in elections?

i'm thinking the other 200 million of us that aren't felons? or at the least, the 80 million gun owners in this country. you could probably even narrow that down to the 8 million of us die hard constitutionalists, but that's just crazy.

 

[Granule]

one down and a few more to go - voter id laws suck

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-objects-texas-voter-id-law-161037385.html

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