Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

Southern Man said:
Abnormally high percentage of pedophiles attack the same sex...
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This has been debunked before. This is not homosexuality. This is attacking children. Little boys are allowed far more freedom than little girls. Little girls are taught it is never ok for men to touch them.

They are not molesting them because they are male. They are molesting them because they are children.

Study after study after study has shown the overwhelming majority of child molesters are heterosexual males.
 
Southern Man said:
LOL anuses ain't vaginas.
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Laugh off the science if you want. But laughing at the facts do not change them.

This is a completely different topic. Pedophiles attack those too young to consent. They do not seek an exclusive relationship with a consenting adult. This "slippery slope" argument is nonsense.

The same argument has been made before and shot down.
 
Southern Man said:
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Dude! Take a class in statistics! This is what The Southern Man posted:



And this is your response:



"Standard Deviation" is a defined term in the science of statistics. It has nothing to to with deviant sexual practices.
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Ok, two things are wrong with your post.

#1. If mathematical statistics have nothing to do with sexuality, or the "norm" thereof, why the fuck did YOU bring it up in the first place?
#2. BOTH of those deviations (ESPECIALLY #1), are found in heterosexual partnerships.
#3. You're straight up wrong. It's be scientifically, mathematically, socially, morally, and all around universally proven. Get over yourself and practice what you preach about equality.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
when a person is admitted, or if they are smart and have done some estate planning ahead of time, they fill out a patient advocate, or health care power of appointment......it spells out who has access to the patient in order to guarantee their right to care.....all it takes is a signature......
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Then make that the policy for all patients. Treating all patients the same, regardless of sexual orientation, is what should happen.

But its not what happens. If they required straights to plan ahead and get a POA, the screams of protest would be loud and long.
 
Weighted Companion Cube said:
Ok, two things are wrong with your post.

#1. If mathematical statistics have nothing to do with sexuality, or the "norm" thereof, why the fuck did YOU bring it up in the first place?
#2. BOTH of those deviations (ESPECIALLY #1), are found in heterosexual partnerships.
#3. You're straight up wrong. It's be scientifically, mathematically, socially, morally, and all around universally proven. Get over yourself and practice what you preach about equality.
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That is precisely why I call SM a bigot. He wants gays denied benefits based on certain criteria. But he does not advocate using the same criteria against straights.
 
WinterBorn said:
That is precisely why I call SM a bigot. He wants gays denied benefits based on certain criteria. But he does not advocate using the same criteria against straights.
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I'm fully aware. It's also why I've distanced myself from him since my return here. I have no need to be associated with fascist bigots like him.
 
Weighted Companion Cube said:
Ok, two things are wrong with your post.

#1. If mathematical statistics have nothing to do with sexuality, or the "norm" thereof, why the fuck did YOU bring it up in the first place?
#2. BOTH of those deviations (ESPECIALLY #1), are found in heterosexual partnerships.
#3. You're straight up wrong. It's be scientifically, mathematically, socially, morally, and all around universally proven. Get over yourself and practice what you preach about equality.
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1. I'm not the person calling queers "normal". I am simply refuting lies by stating facts.
2. So what? Some heteros are immoral.
3. I am absolutely correct that homosexuality, being about 1%, is well past two standard deviations of sexual behavior, and is therefore abnormal behavior. It is also immoral behavior, since the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
Is that a pig in your pocket, or......?

Oh yeah. That's just the bottom layer of your gut. Now you're naming them?
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Another of the SM harem come to defend their boyfriend from all the nasty boys on the internet, I wonder, do you tickle his nuts while Ice Dancer blows him?
 
Southern Man said:
1. I'm not the person calling queers "normal". I am simply refuting lies by stating facts.
2. So what? Some heteros are immoral.
3. I am absolutely correct that homosexuality, being about 1%, is well past two standard deviations of sexual behavior, and is therefore abnormal behavior. It is also immoral behavior, since the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination.
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we don't pass our laws based on the bible. Who cares what the bible says? If you are christian, live by it, but don't try to force it on others. Your god is not mine and I don't have to play by the rules written in a book by men and attributed to god.
 
Socrtease said:
we don't pass our laws based on the bible. Who cares what the bible says? If you are christian, live by it, but don't try to force it on others. Your god is not mine and I don't have to play by the rules written in a book by men and attributed to god.
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Laws should have a moral basis, wouldn't you agree?
 
Southern Man said:
1. I'm not the person calling queers "normal"
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No, you're the one arguing they are not "normal" despite the fact that you have yet to present what is "normal".
I am simply refuting lies by stating facts.
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What fact is that?
2. So what? Some heteros are immoral.
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Those "deviations" would thus be considered "normal", since the vast majority of the population practice them
3. I am absolutely correct that homosexuality, being about 1%, is well past two standard deviations of sexual behavior, and is therefore abnormal behavior. It is also immoral behavior, since the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination.
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Really, are you now? So what are the other deviations? And I thought "standard deviations" didn't apply to sexual practices. Which is it?

As for morality, once again, you fail to recognize that the bible is not the standard of morality for most of America, and is irrelevant to our government. I consider many elements of the bible immoral.
 
Southern Man said:
Laws should have a moral basis, wouldn't you agree?
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Yes, but morals are not the sole possession of the religious. I don't need a god to tell me that stealing or murder are wrong. They are mala in se and need no supernatural being to make them so. The Code of Hammarabi made those things crimes without prevailing on god to make them so. The Code predates the bible by almost two thousand years. So laws don't need god to tell us what is right and wrong.
 
WinterBorn said:
Then make that the policy for all patients. Treating all patients the same, regardless of sexual orientation, is what should happen.

But its not what happens. If they required straights to plan ahead and get a POA, the screams of protest would be loud and long.
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????...it is.....a gay person can file a patient's advocacy document naming their same sex partner.....I have quite a few gay clients since I was previously a business partner with a gay couple for a number of years, and I have prepared several such documents for clients.....if a straight person living unmarried with someone of the opposite sex does not plan ahead and prepare such a document the statutory fall back is that next of kin serves as the advocate....that means parent or sibling....if they don't get along with the girlfriend she's as much out of luck as the gay partner......
 
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