Obamacare: still the law of the land

You are a silly Trumpper who makes up shit to fit what you wish were true. Sadly, the internet provides obscure poorly sourced web pages to help you in that persuit

The Health and Human Services department of the US government is a "obscure poorly sourced web page?" Yea, sure...
 
That's just the top of their sick pyramid, Owl.

What's really baffling is the rest of the pyramid: tens of millions of rank-and-file Republicans who really don't have much of anything other than their devotion to their string-pullers.

You are describing yourself and Democrats. Inversion fallacy.
 
I've got Medicare and supplemental too, Owl.
My union-negotiated retirement package even got the supplemental subsidized by our former employer's remnant holders.
It works fine for me, but it's not all about me.

I'm not a pragmatic socialist.
I'm an ideological socialist.

I have always supported a National Health Care System, not because I need it, but because the society needs it.
You work or worked in the health care industry, so it's only natural that you would have to have an influenced opinion.
Perhaps you might not want to be a government employee. Fair enough.
I've no problem with that at all.

I just know that in which I believe.

Communism doesn't work, dude.
 
When Obamacare passed there were about 24 million Americans without health insurance coverage. Today there are about 26 million. Given population growth, the number of uninsured in America has remained about constant. All Obamacare did for the most part was shift people from private insurance plans onto Obamacare plans that often suck worse than their previous coverage.

Proof please? Because the site you gave doesn't support your hyperbole. From your source:

The number of uninsured nonelderly Americans fell from 48 million in 2010 to 28
million in 2016, before rising to 30 million in the first half of 2020


And since the first half of 2020:

New HHS Report Shows National Uninsured Rate Reached All-Time Low in 2022

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022...nsured-rate-reached-all-time-low-in-2022.html


You're a piss poor MAGA propagandist, T.D. You don't even have the intellectual honesty to fully admit you're wrong on any level.
 
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I'll explain myself. Medicare and Medicaid are private services paid for with public funding.

A national health service is actual public services.
The health care providers, in a sense, are working for the government because the government provides the services
rather than just paying for it, similar to the VA hospitals. Also similar to the police and fire departments, for that matter.

Health care professionals oppose an NHS because of that; they wish to be independent agents, not salaried government employees as
they are in the UK. The UK has private health care as well, but if you use it, you still have to pay the taxes for the NHS.

Thus, I understand why some liberals would rather have the public funding / private service model. I'm not arguing that that's bad.

Ideologically, however, I would rather have the NHS. That my personal position. I'm NOT a libertarian as you know, and I'm not afraid of a more
comprehensive public sector and a more regulated private sector.

Humans are not generically solitary animals like some others. Humans genetically evolved to live in packs--societies--and are thus burdened with being socially responsible, not independent free agents.

We seek personal autonomy where it's appropriate, but are supposed to understand our social responsibilities.

That's why I call myself a socialist. It doesn't mean that socialism and capitalism are a binary choice. They're not.
They run concurrently in every economy, but the lines must be drawn in a socially responsible manner
to be morally legitimate.

Communism doesn't work, dude.
 
Not that I can read Bullshit Blob's ignored posts, but I find it amusing that the devolved mutant troglodyte thinks it's wise to quote and answer my posts.

Nobody needs a direct comparison, Bullshit Blob, to recognize what a dumb fucking shit you are.
You're making a wasted effort.

Bulverism fallacy.
 
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