christiefan915
Catalyst
Actually, she doesn't have one wrinkle on her face. What about you?
And actually I don't look like a horse. What about you?
Actually, she doesn't have one wrinkle on her face. What about you?
There's one thing we know from every speech and every action of this administration, the buck doesn't stop anywhere near Obama. He has yet to make a speech that I have watched on any subject anywhere that doesn't mention that he "inherited" a problem.
I've watched a great many of them. Please tell me your long list of his speeches since becoming President that do not include that line. I've heard it in his "green" speeches, his "healthcare" speeches, his speeches on the war, his speeches on why his promised jobs "savings" never came and we passed his promised "highest" unemployment long before we "peaked" on that particular mess. I've heard it everywhere he speaks.Really? Well, you must not have watched very many of his speeches.
I've watched a great many of them. Please tell me your long list of his speeches since becoming President that do not include that line. I've heard it in his "green" speeches, his "healthcare" speeches, his speeches on the war, his speeches on why his promised jobs "savings" never came and we passed his promised "highest" unemployment long before we "peaked" on that particular mess. I've heard it everywhere he speaks.
Does anybody alive not know it already? There comes a time when it becomes whining and an attempt to excuse his own failure.Is it inaccurate to say that Obama inherited an economic problem?
Is it inaccurate to say that Obama inherited an economic problem?
You both admit it's an accurate characterization. So, he's telling the truth. Why wouldn't he say it?
And, as usual, you both exaggerate the number of times he brings it up.
Nope, in this speech he spreads the blame rather than accepting the responsibility.Here is a text of a recent economic speech. I think you guys are confused; yes, he brings up the situation that he started with, but that is necessary to measure progress, like "here's where we were a year ago, and here is where we are now." Also, he takes a lot of responsibility for his own policies.
As usual, you are both exaggerating:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2009/12/obama_speech_on_job_creation_t.html
And we were forced to take those steps largely without the help of an opposition party which, unfortunately, after having presided over the decision-making that led to the crisis, decided to hand it over to others to solve.
Here is a text of a recent economic speech. I think you guys are confused; yes, he brings up the situation that he started with, but that is necessary to measure progress, like "here's where we were a year ago, and here is where we are now." Also, he takes a lot of responsibility for his own policies.
As usual, you are both exaggerating:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2009/12/obama_speech_on_job_creation_t.html
As usual, you are an idiot. Again... I never stated any specific number and the fact that he does continue to bring it up highlights the point I made that he continually brings it up. Pulling one speech and pretending that is somehow evidence against what we stated is simply moronic.
ESPECIALLY when he brings up the very topic in that speech.
quit being an Obama apologist.
I made the point that he doesn't make speeches without mentioning it (whining about it), and you posted a speech that made my point."The above is just a nastier way of saying, "We inherited the problem," while at the same time attempting to pre-excuse their own failure.
This is BS and ignores 2 years of control from his own party and his own votes (or non-votes) which continued the policies."
It's more taking a shot at the GOP, who - as a party - decided to listen to Rush & draw a line in the sand on economic policy, and make it as political as possible. It's a fair statement, and hardly the kind of "whining" that you accuse him of. In a long speech, that's the only line I saw that you can even make hay about...
I can spend the next few hours pulling up speeches that Obama has given in the last few months, but I expect they'll show what I already know: you guys are serial exaggerators when it comes to Obama.
And the onus is on you, since you have stated "continually"...
As I stated... it is Obama and his admin that do continually bring it up. Do you deny that they have when even YOUR post links to a speech in which Obama brings it up? I am not suggesting that he does it in EVERY speech... but only a blind lemming would pretend he hasn't continually brought it up over the past 11 months.
Quit being an Obama apologist.
Nope, in this speech he spreads the blame rather than accepting the responsibility.
The above is just a nastier way of saying, "We inherited the problem," while at the same time attempting to pre-excuse their own failure.
This is BS and ignores 2 years of control from his own party and his own votes (or non-votes) which continued the policies.
I don't blame him for the downturn, I do blame him for mucking it up, not actually stimulating the economy with his "spendulus" bill.
So now not only does President Obama have a list of topics he can't discuss without upsetting you, but now he has to worry about how he says it in order not to upset you?
One would think living on the wind swept eastern plains of Colorado would have toughened that thin skin of yours.