Althea
Althea told me...
Kind of odd that Canada refused to refine that crap in country.
OK exports suffer
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Althea
Althea told me...
I'm not sure of the numbers re. union members voting, but I do remember that a few unions simply refused to endorse one candidate or the other. First time in history. Playing it safe, as it were.
Althea
Althea told me...
I wonder how Tlaib's followers feel about what is going on in Gaza now that they voted for Stein, or trump?
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
Keystone XL pipeline nixed after Biden stands firm on permit
"Construction on the 1,200-mile (1,930-kilometer) pipeline began last year when former President Donald Trump revived the long-delayed project after it had stalled under the Obama administration. It would have moved up to 830,000 barrels (35 million gallons) of crude daily, connecting in Nebraska to other pipelines that feed oil refineries on the U.S. Gulf Coast."
Keystone XL pipeline nixed after Biden stands firm on permit
The sponsor of the Keystone XL crude oil pipeline says it's pulling the plug on the contentious project after Canadian officials failed to persuade the Biden administration to reverse its cancellation of the company's permit.apnews.com
Thanks to the idiot Biden, many good jobs were canceled because of the crying about global warming.
"Alberta invested more than $1 billion in the project last year, kick-starting construction that had stalled amid determined opposition to the line from environmentalists and Native American tribes along its route."
FJB
Bullshit. The Keystone XL would have created some TEMPORARY construction jobs, and just a handful of permanent jobs for the operators. The crude that would have flowed through it belongs to Canada and would be transported to U.S. ports and shipped to other countries.
As for U.S. production, we increased that under Biden. Our sticking spot is refinery capacity. We can pump every drop out of the Earth possible and still not bring down energy costs due to lack of refinery capacity.
Tbird19482
Verified User
Well the pipe line companies safety record isn't very good and MAGAS wonder why we didn't want it running near or over our important water supplies.
and they had a leak they said was only 187 gallons of oil when it finally came out that it was over 16,800 gallons.
If they are going to lie like this who can we trust them?
Tbird19482
Verified User
And under Biden we increased production to over 32 MBPD that amount was never hit under Trump in his first term.Bullshit. The Keystone XL would have created some TEMPORARY construction jobs, and just a handful of permanent jobs for the operators. The crude that would have flowed through it belongs to Canada and would be transported to U.S. ports and shipped to other countries.
As for U.S. production, we increased that under Biden. Our sticking spot is refinery capacity. We can pump every drop out of the Earth possible and still not bring down energy costs due to lack of refinery capacity.
Tbird19482
Verified User
I heard the same thing.
At least it won't be destroying the water supply millions of AMERICANS depend on if their pipe leaks.
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
Maybe because refineries capable of handling that dirty crude are very, very expensive.
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
Good point.
QP!
Verified User
What makes you so stupid that you simply think they will make less money instead of just charging the customers more?
The history of business is costs go up, and businesses pass those costs on to consumers.
Taxes are one of those costs and tariffs are a tax.
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
Maybe those are the "great jobs" Reichwingers bleated about -- cleaning up massive oil spills.
Beyond mere stupid. So Democrat. 
QP!
Verified User
In the earliest days of Oil Sands extraction and refining in Canada, Canada was building its own refineries often funded by US backers.
The Oil Sands were NOT profitable to extract at that point but the need for Oil and gas in both Canada and the US was seen as so critical they pushed on under the belief that once at large scale extraction it would be profitable, which has proven to be true.
It was the US who made the case to Canada that they should focus on 'extraction' and allow the US to focus on refining as Texas was already building a lot of mega refineries and those could handle the dirty crude. The argument being that consolidating refining to them would lower their cost base and Canada would get back refined product cheaper than they could refine it themselves.
As this unburdened the Canadian market also having to finance refineries almost all new projects were shelved and the industry in Canada for refining became mostly niche.
It was an understandable mistake by Canada, which as a small population country would have struggled with the financing (even with private investors) but where if they did their own refining they would have all those really high paying and stable jobs and control of finished clean product they could sell to any country and not just the US who has proven to be an unreliable partner.