Oklahoma Bible mandate challenged in Court

[Into the Night]

Right, the state is implementing the desires of evangelical Protestants, rather than take into account what would actually work at the level of teaching, instruction, and readability.

The Bible has been translated into English. Too bad YOU have so much trouble with the language.

The Evangelicals seem to believe KJV is the purest form of the Bible, even though the language is archaic and the science of linguistics has advanced in the 500 years since the KJV translation.

Linguistics is not a branch of science. English is English. You just don't understand it.

 

[Margot]

So? What has this got to do with the State of Oklahoma?

Oklahoma is a State

 

[Into the Night]

Oklahoma is a State

So?

 

[IBDaMann]

I'm surprised these reactionaries are trying to make kids read the King James Bible.

It's the opposite, silly. The reactionaries reacted by filing a lawsuit to stop kids from being allowed to read the King James Bible.

The language in KJV is so archaic, kids won't be able to understand it.

I understood it as a kid. Today, it's the only version of the Bible I read. You must have been stupid as a child.

The intent of the school board is obviously not to the benefit of the kids,

How does having access to KJV damage children? I'm an atheist. I was actually required to study KJV. For what kind of damage should I look?

but to ingratiate themselves with the fire-and-brimstone gang,

Wait, wait, wait ... since when did KJV stop being a version of the Bible and become a gang of people?

whom mistakenly believe

The correct word is "who" in this case, not "whom."

... KJV is the most authentic Bible.

I think it's pretty clear that KJV is the most authentic. How is this not obvious to you?

 

[IBDaMann]

Oklahoma is a State

Yeah, but is it a commonwealth?

 

[EdwinA]

This is a State issue. The Federal government is not involved.

Yes. as I pointed out. Massachusetts was the last state to repeal their favorite sect's official state support, in 1834.

AI Overview



Massachusetts did not repeal state-supported religion until 1833, making it the last state to disestablish its church
. State support was ended by the passage of the 11th Amendment to the Massachusetts Constitution, after a public plebiscite voted overwhelmingly against state religion.

Key details about the disestablishment:

• The Congregationalist Church had been the official state church, and all citizens were taxed to support it.
• Growing discontent with the state-church arrangement came from various religious groups, including Baptists, who were not part of the official establishment.
• The rise of Unitarianism further fueled the opposition. After a Massachusetts Supreme Court decision in 1820, many Congregationalist churches were taken over by Unitarians, angering orthodox Congregationalists and prompting some to join the call for disestablishment.
• A decisive plebiscite in 1833 saw voters approve a constitutional amendment to end state support for religion by a 10-to-1 margin.

The disestablishment in Massachusetts is considered a significant event in the history of church-state separation in the United States, as it marked the final instance of an official, state-supported religion among the original colonies.

The Constitution was designed to limit Federal powers, not Christianity, and it was also deliberately denied the Federal govt. the power to use military force against a state as well. See this book for how and why Madison rejected granting the Federal govt. that power as well as others.

https://www.loc.gov/item/01009289/

A compilation of several diaries of the attendees here:

The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, vol. 1 | Online Library of Liberty

Volume 1 covers May 14 to July 13, 1787. The records of the Federal Convention which was held in Philadelphia between May and September 1787. The sessions were secret but the proceedings were reconstructed from notes kept by the official secretary and some participants, most notably James Madison.

oll.libertyfund.org

Three volumes.

 

[EdwinA]

Do you believe in magic, cocksucker? You should, Festus, because you’re just about to become invisible. Congrats, cunt, you’re one of the few who have managed to do that.

Pay attention now, cunt.

POOF! YOU’RE GONE!

LOL

lol you get more and more addled with every passing day. Are you in a Home now? Does the nurse not give you ypur meds on time?

 

[Margot]

So?

So!

So?